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Upcoming a Omega release teaser

Post by dnslater » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:35 am

From Omega..... will be released at Basel........


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Looks like a 1957 SM300 Reissue?
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Post by dukerules » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:42 am

I saw these yesterday. No HEV is a good thing. I bet these will be appealing. I just cringe at the idea of the thickness of this thing with the 8500 in it.

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Post by dnslater » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:51 am

dukerules wrote:I saw these yesterday. No HEV is a good thing. I bet these will be appealing. I just cringe at the idea of the thickness of this thing with the 8500 in it.

Yeah, I hope they don't put the 8500 in it. Omega can't seem to make a diver less than 18mm thick these days. If they can make it relatively think and price it under the PO, they will have a winner. Will probably be a crazy expensive LE though.
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Re: Upcoming a Omega release teaser

Post by jimyritz » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:16 am

Cool-- I can only imagine the price...

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Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:08 am

dnslater wrote:
dukerules wrote:I saw these yesterday. No HEV is a good thing. I bet these will be appealing. I just cringe at the idea of the thickness of this thing with the 8500 in it.

Yeah, I hope they don't put the 8500 in it. Omega can't seem to make a diver less than 18mm thick these days. If they can make it relatively think and price it under the PO, they will have a winner. Will probably be a crazy expensive LE though.
In one of the other teasers they, tongue in cheek, call it "A limited edition of 100,000". There's a good thread with a better image on TZ-UK:
http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?2 ... a-incoming!

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Post by JDC222 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:40 am

jimyritz wrote:Cool-- I can only imagine the price...
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Post by Panerai7 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:47 am

I like how it looks. In my opinion Omega needs to stop chasing Rolex in the price race. It's always been the case when you can't buy Rolex you buy Omega. It was something awesome about a Speedy for 1500 and SMP for 1100 few years ago. Doesn't swatch have BP and others to exercise unjustified price hikes?

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Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:50 am

Panerai7 wrote:It's always been the case when you can't buy Rolex you buy Omega.
That's actually not the case. There were periods of time, prior to the "quartz crisis", where Omega was the more desirable brand. Rolex came to their current prominence by faltering less and recovering more quickly than the other brands.

I agree with you though, I like Omega as a more value-oriented alternative to Rolex - unfortunately Swatch doesn't give a shit how we feel.

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Post by matt.wu » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:51 am

This one looks like too much of a copy of the original. I'm not sure it's gonna work...
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JP Chestnut wrote:
Panerai7 wrote:It's always been the case when you can't buy Rolex you buy Omega.
That's actually not the case. There were periods of time, prior to the "quartz crisis", where Omega was the more desirable brand. Rolex came to their current prominence by faltering less and recovering more quickly than the other brands.

I agree with you though, I like Omega as a more value-oriented alternative to Rolex - unfortunately Swatch doesn't give a shit how we feel.
Rolex really became ROLEX in the '80s when it was THE brand for discerning, coke-head bond traders. Two tone datejusts were flying off the shelves then.
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Re: Upcoming a Omega release teaser

Post by dshap » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:17 am

I'm excited to see it :shrug:
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Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:20 am

dshap wrote:I'm excited to see it :shrug:
Me too. I was just thinking the other day how much better the PO would look without a date and with a #3 added to the dial. This was seems to be something like that, plus they got rid of the HEV wart. It could be too big, or too expensive, but I suspect it will be nice looking nonetheless.

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Re: Upcoming a Omega release teaser

Post by Panerai7 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:31 am

This could be the watch to get in 2014.
Liquid metal, no date, no HEV, solid case back, 8500 cal, 43-44mm. All for ~$3500-$4000 street price, take that SubC ND :)

Edit: they already have the 44mm case from PO GMT, could use that.

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Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:41 am

Panerai7 wrote: Liquid metal, no date, no HEV, solid case back, 8500 cal, 43-44mm. All for ~$3500-$4000 street price, take that SubC ND :)
That seems overly cheap. The best NIB price I see regularly for a standard PO is $4,700. Adding liquid metal is going to raise the price.

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Post by matt.wu » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:43 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
Panerai7 wrote: Liquid metal, no date, no HEV, solid case back, 8500 cal, 43-44mm. All for ~$3500-$4000 street price, take that SubC ND :)
That seems overly cheap. The best NIB price I see regularly for a standard PO is $4,700. Adding liquid metal is going to raise the price.
Yup. Try doubling that price if you're getting all those things. LM Ti PO is around $8600 MSRP.

And if by street price, you mean used, then it's still another grand or two tacked on - more if it's a popular release. Less if it's the 16mm thick we're expecting it to be.
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Post by Zidane » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:45 am

Yeah...I'm really hoping they don't screw this up.

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Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:46 am

matt.wu wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
Panerai7 wrote: Liquid metal, no date, no HEV, solid case back, 8500 cal, 43-44mm. All for ~$3500-$4000 street price, take that SubC ND :)
That seems overly cheap. The best NIB price I see regularly for a standard PO is $4,700. Adding liquid metal is going to raise the price.
Yup. Try doubling that price if you're getting all those things. LM Ti PO is around $8600 MSRP.

And if by street price, you mean used, then it's still another grand or two tacked on - more if it's a popular release. Less if it's the 16mm thick we're expecting it to be.
Honestly, I'd be happy with something bridging the gap between the current SMP (which I don't like the look of) and the 8500 PO (too thick). The modified ETA in the SMP is fine with me. That watch might hit $4,000 after discounts.

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Post by dnslater » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:50 am

Panerai7 wrote:This could be the watch to get in 2014.
Liquid metal, no date, no HEV, solid case back, 8500 cal, 43-44mm. All for ~$3500-$4000 street price, take that SubC ND :)

Edit: they already have the 44mm case from PO GMT, could use that.
Looks to me like an all original case design, similar to the original 1957, and abandoning the twisted lug design of the current Seamaster/PO line.

Case like this:

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Post by koda240 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:56 am

I get the sense that if it's too much of a throw back design it might not generate the mass appeal of models like the more modern PO. WIS are likely to love it, but not sure the general public will find it as interesting. Just a hunch.

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Post by dnslater » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:00 am

koda240 wrote:I get the sense that if it's too much of a throw back design it might not generate the mass appeal of models like the more modern PO. WIS are likely to love it, but not sure the general public will find it as interesting. Just a hunch.
Yes, but they will also need to be careful not to cannibalize sales of the PO or Seamaster, so a slimmer, more vintage design might fit a nice niche. The original PO was intended to be heavily inspired by the original 1957 SM300, but as Omega has move upmarket, and fattened up the PO, it is less vintage inspired.

Wonder how the Tudor Black Bay sells among general public? Guessing that might be the right sort of niche for a 2014 SM300. Make it similar to the original, but with a ceramic bezel and modern movement and subtly upgraded detailing.

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Post by hoppyjr » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:02 am

Damn, I didn't need to see this!.....

I've been waiting for such a piece, so I'll likely get in line.

I'm betting 2500d motor.

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Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:03 am

koda240 wrote:I get the sense that if it's too much of a throw back design it might not generate the mass appeal of models like the more modern PO. WIS are likely to love it, but not sure the general public will find it as interesting. Just a hunch.
I suspect this watch is the latest in the line of "throwback" models: Ploprof, First Omega in Space Speedmaster, Bullhead, Speedmaster Mark 2, and now this Seamaster. Omega seems to be making a concerted effort to capitalize on their roots (which is great because they have older designs that are far superior to anything current).

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Post by JBZ » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:32 am

dnslater wrote:Wonder how the Tudor Black Bay sells among general public? Guessing that might be the right sort of niche for a 2014 SM300. Make it similar to the original, but with a ceramic bezel and modern movement and subtly upgraded detailing.
I wonder about that, too. In general, the BB and this Omega strike me as something that would be popular among the WIS crowd - folks with a knowledge of the brand history and the ability to see that history in these new designs. Not sure if that translates to lots of sales to the general public (also, my guess is the no date thing is a turn off to a lot of people, but that's just a guess on my part).
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Post by marchone » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:32 am

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If it takes its cues from this with the 2500D it will be a winner. I'll guess $6K.
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