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Post by YOHOHO » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:58 am

I beg you for help before I start drinking and take a hammer to this thing.....

I'm attempting to install the bracelet on my Sinn u212, but I'm struggling. I'm not looking to mangle my lugs, but I'm wondering if that is my only option at this point. The endlinks fit nicely, but that lack of play isn't helping me....

Any thoughts, tricks, or common sense fix that I'm missing? I have proper tools, just apparently not proper skills.

Thank you!

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Post by aikiman44 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:10 pm

Always tricky. Try some lube, throw some furniture around.
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Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:20 pm

Two screwdrivers...

Or buy the spring bar tongs.

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Post by HapaHapa » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:23 pm

You'd be well served to buy this style of spring bar tool. Ofrei is a supplier and Rakutan carries knock offs. My Sawtooth has tight endlink/lug fit and I think the holes don't perfectly align, so I found it necessary to use springbars with standard tips instead of fat Seiko/Sinn style tips.
Similar difficulty is thick straps and hidden or short lugs. I have put a very slight bend in the springbar to make thick straps fit. I don't see a strength issue with a very slight bend because the bend isn't what will take the force of an tug on the strap. Just don't bend it very far or try to remove a bend. Image
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Post by kfalk » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:24 pm



Not sure a just a visual may help? :shrug:
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Post by james80 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:53 pm

You’re not alone, breathe, take many breaks and don’t ever take it off again. If it’s the same as my UX (I think it is) it’s horrible.

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Post by fastward » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:04 pm

I feel that it’s worth the cost to get spring bar pliers. It’ll save time and lessen headaches.


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Post by CGSshorty » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:05 pm

Make sure you are using the right spring bars. Sinn uses different bars for the bracelet and rubber straps.
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Post by rockmastermike » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:16 pm

I have the "affordable" version of that tool and it's been worth it so far
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Post by YOHOHO » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:30 pm

thanks everyone. I think i'll order one of the springbar pliers and let myself have a bit of a cooling down period. I'm hoping the springbars are correct since I bought the bracelet new, but I may order some with shoulders to help me out a bit, too.

I did try, but fail with the 2 screwdriver approach, too.

Welp, at least, I no longer feel alone. Thanks!
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Post by fastward » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:30 pm

Have you tried Two Screw Drivers (tm)?

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Post by Torrid » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:00 pm

Sounds like installing the bracelet on the Samurai reissue. There’s absolutely no play in it’s fit and unless you get both sides of the spring bar compressed simultaneously it’s just not going in.

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Post by deepcdvr » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:12 pm

Fkn germans press fit those damn end links and pins. It’s a beautiful thing once you get the damn thing on. I find alcohol helps
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Post by spring-diver » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:40 pm

deepcdvr wrote:Fkn germans press fit those damn end links and pins. It’s a beautiful thing once you get the damn thing on. I find alcohol helps
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Post by dukerules » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:45 pm

I've never had trouble with my U series bracelets, but can't easily get my 103 bracelet back on. I would try the spring bar pliers.

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Post by tmw » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:40 pm

I use the Spring bar pliers on the ezm1.1. Only way to get the endlinks on easy. Sinn bracelets and spring bars are very tight fit.
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Post by HapaHapa » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:08 pm

james80 wrote:You’re not alone, breathe, take many breaks and don’t ever take it off again. If it’s the same as my UX (I think it is) it’s horrible.
Yes, plan on devoting some time to it. And don’t let it get you too pissed off.
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Post by james80 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:13 pm

Do those spring bar pliers work with shoulder less bars? There’s not much to hold on to.

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Post by HapaHapa » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:28 am

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Post by gamecock111 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:21 pm

I am still traumatized since butchering the bracelet off my pelagos a year and half ago.

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Post by Panerai7 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:43 pm

gamecock111 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:21 pm
I am still traumatized since butchering the bracelet off my pelagos a year and half ago.
Yep, the reason why I bought those tongues and dssd

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Post by mfxr » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:53 pm

CGSshorty wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:05 pm
Make sure you are using the right spring bars. Sinn uses different bars for the bracelet and rubber straps.
100% this.
bracelet bars are shorter than the strap bars, so you will struggle putting the longer ones on with the bracelet. It is actually worse if you succeed, because removing them will be VERY VERY difficult.

My EZM13 came on bracelet, and that is what the AD had done. I basically had to destroy the bar to remove it.

Not just Sinns also - Omega and others generally seems to have longer strap / shorter bracelet spring bars.

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Post by Joeprez » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:12 pm

Yep, the planet ocean has 20mm springbars for straps but for the bracelet you use 19mm springbars.
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Post by Abmw » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:49 pm

I have never ever been able to put on any Sinn bracelet myself. The fit is really tight. I just take it to my watchmaker that puts it on for free.

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