Introducing the Sinn EZM 1.1 Limited Edition
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Very nice looking, but I just don't like lefty crowns on any watch.
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The l5100 is more pedestrian, uglier, harder to fix, and less reliable.streetracer101 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:16 pmI didn't know that 5100 had so many issues. Everything I've read waxed poetic about how durable it is. 7750 just seems pedestrian for me..but it is a reliable work horse.tmw wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:06 pmThe original LE of 250 used NOS lemania movements, and many had troubles with reseting and crowns. The lemania movement is known to be robust, but the plastic parts and difficulty of repairing makes the ezm1 a pain. I have had 9 plus of these things, and is one of my favorite watches of all time. But the movement service issues make this a no-go for me. And trusting to RGM would not be a good thing.streetracer101 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:02 pmI think the old model wore great. I understand the argument that it felt light, but that's what I liked about it. The newer version is bigger, heavier and probably made of a cheaper material to manufacture. IDK about the movement - seems 7750 is just less sexy than 5100 for me. It would've been cooler if they sourced NOS movements and re-built them with modern parts, but it probably would've proven to be a nightmare.BBK357 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:44 pmstreetracer101 wrote:They completely missed their mark. Upsized ss case, inferior movement and absurd price. I don't think this will have any impact on current EZM1 prices.
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I had some of the same thoughts at first. Then I realized
1- upsized case from 40 to 43 may benefit this watch. The original ezm1 is of course a classic, but the dial is on the smaller side, and I am not sure of the actual dial measurements but my acrylic 103 seemed to have a bigger, more visible dial. So that's to be determined for myself. I thought the U1P, or any U1 would be huge on me, but I love the look on my 7.5 wrist and I think it fits quite well.
2- SS vs Ti. This is my biggest concern. I would have loved this more if it was tegmented Ti like the EZM 10. I love that watch and wish I still had it. The only upside to this new EZM1.1 is that it is tegmented. I love the grey metal look of the U1P and it has held up very well. I'm not particularly easy on most of my watches. The original Ti EZM1 was very easy to mark up.
3- inferior movement. I totally disagree on this. The Lemania 5100 was a classic and one of the best functional chronograph movements. But pop the caseback and it's not pretty. Plastic parts are used, and if you try to get one serviced local, good luck. I called around to 5 places last time I tried to get one worked on, nobody would touch it. Not even an old Swiss watchmaker that is local to me, I thought he would at least try.
The Lemania is known to be robust and a workhorse, but most that I had, and I've had a lot, had issues that required service. That may not be saying much since most were older and no service history.
The SZ01 is a fantastic movement that uses an ETA to get the function of the L5100. I'll take it. I had it in my EZM 10 and I had zero problems with it.
4- price. Yep it's high. No argument there. If that price included a bracelet I would be happy with the price for that package.
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I would take tegmented SS over ti any day.
I'm sure these will sell out regardless of price. Shit, I bet Sinn could've priced them at $5500 and they'd sell out.
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I dig it. I think it's going to wear quite large with that case and those lugs.
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Any info on Lug to Lug?
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My question as well. I'd assume 50mm+, which makes it a no-go for me.rockmastermike wrote:Any info on Lug to Lug?
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Really? Those lugs are super short.dukerules wrote:I dig it. I think it's going to wear quite large with that case and those lugs.
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The old version wore slightly larger than a classic 40mm Rolex diver, but much smaller than a speedy pro. I'd expect this to wear pretty true to size.
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I highly doubt that. Closer to 48mm is my guess.Chocodove wrote:My question as well. I'd assume 50mm+, which makes it a no-go for me.rockmastermike wrote:Any info on Lug to Lug?
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That would be surprising. The 40mm version was at least 47mm, slightly longer probably.
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Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. I'll have an answer tomorrow, hopefully. Sinn did not include that measurement on the spec sheet.JP Chestnut wrote:That would be surprising. The 40mm version was at least 47mm, slightly longer probably.
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Original ezm1 is reported to have 46mm lug to lug
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I base it on my 103 and former EZM1. Neither is a large watch, but that case wears large to me.
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Good comparison with measurements
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f24/compar ... 42542.html
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namor wrote:It's not the watch the ZUZ designed with Sinn, and it's not 300M. It's probably a great watch on its own merits, but the only thing it has in common with an EZM1 is the dial design.
Is it worth 2x a EZM13 because the dial has negative space? That's a better comparison than any other Sinn
I think a better comparison- pound for pound would be the EZM 10.
It's now discontinued but still in stock at $$5290 on leather. Bracelet is an extra $560.
I didn't truly appreciate the EZM 10 until I bought the bracelet. Incredible watch.
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Wish it still had that bracelet, but I'm still loving it anyway. I've never had an EZM 1 so I can't compare, but the 10 amazed me. At first I thought it was going to wear too big, in reality the case design and material (titanium) make it very comfortable and not over bearing.BBK357 wrote:namor wrote:It's not the watch the ZUZ designed with Sinn, and it's not 300M. It's probably a great watch on its own merits, but the only thing it has in common with an EZM1 is the dial design.
Is it worth 2x a EZM13 because the dial has negative space? That's a better comparison than any other Sinn
I think a better comparison- pound for pound would be the EZM 10.
It's now discontinued but still in stock at $$5290 on leather. Bracelet is an extra $560.
I didn't truly appreciate the EZM 10 until I bought the bracelet. Incredible watch.
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Would buy to wear the piss out of, but at that price...
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Does not having a running seconds bother anyone on this? Feel like it'd drive me nuts.
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Drives me crazy on a panerai. I wear the ezm1 all the time. Non issue. Shrugdinexus wrote:Does not having a running seconds bother anyone on this? Feel like it'd drive me nuts.
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Would running the chrono seconds hand continuously be detrimental to the movement? I would guess the power reserve would also be affected(decrease significantly?).
Also, how would you set the time to the second if there is no running seconds?
Also, how would you set the time to the second if there is no running seconds?
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Axelay2003 wrote:Would running the chrono seconds hand continuously be detrimental to the movement? I would guess the power reserve would also be affected(decrease significantly?).
Also, how would you set the time to the second if there is no running seconds?
I've let it run during a full work day, about 14 hours or more. No issues with lemania or SZ movement.
I always set the time on the minute and wait for the other clock to hit 12. Same as always. Difference is you don't have a seconds hand to check accuracy, so you can check that with chrono sweep or look at the minute hand when it's supposed to be 30 seconds last the hour, and see if it's the ezm1 or whichever is in between markers.
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Tempting, but makes me pine for another original EZM1.
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I totally love it but wish it was Ti, wasn't a LE, and cost much much less, I mean you can get a used Pelagos ETA for $2800 or less and IMHO the Pelagos is a hell of a tool watch but I know the EZM 1.1 will sell out in an instant so what do I know.
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What?!, I didnt even know they discontinued the EZM10. Too many watches not enough money.
BBK357 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:13 pmnamor wrote:It's not the watch the ZUZ designed with Sinn, and it's not 300M. It's probably a great watch on its own merits, but the only thing it has in common with an EZM1 is the dial design.
Is it worth 2x a EZM13 because the dial has negative space? That's a better comparison than any other Sinn
I think a better comparison- pound for pound would be the EZM 10.
It's now discontinued but still in stock at $$5290 on leather. Bracelet is an extra $560.
I didn't truly appreciate the EZM 10 until I bought the bracelet. Incredible watch.
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