Sinn Price Increase 9/1
Re: Sinn Price Increase 9/1
I would assume that they would stop with the increases when it affected annual watch sales.
Don't Patek, Lange, AP and Seiko do everything in-house? If so, they have better control over cost increases. Sinn may be passing along increases they are receiving.
Don't Patek, Lange, AP and Seiko do everything in-house? If so, they have better control over cost increases. Sinn may be passing along increases they are receiving.
Re: Sinn Price Increase 9/1
Only Seiko has full vertically integrated production.fastward wrote:Don't Patek, Lange, AP and Seiko do everything in-house? If so, they have better control over cost increases. Sinn may be passing along increases they are receiving.
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Re: Sinn Price Increase 9/1
Truth to be told.... I haven't owned my U1 for a long time... but seems to be a tough watch.marchone wrote:Bullshit. They are no tougher than anything else out there. Ask me (or mattcantwin) how I know.Joeprez wrote:Good thing they are tough watches ...
smalls wrote:Or Paul. Wasn't it a piece of dust that stopped his U1 cold?Joeprez wrote:Good thing they are tough watches and can be picked preloved in great conditions. And too bad because I really like the EZM-13. And the 857 UTC.
I don't necessarily see the gmt's or chronos too overprice at this point... But its getting there with the three handers.
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Re: Sinn Price Increase 9/1
I wrote Sinn off after the last increase. They are becoming irrelevant now and will eventually price themselves out of the market. So in my mind that saying about "for a little bit more" rings very true.
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Re: Sinn Price Increase 9/1
Kobold looks like a bargain now.
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Re: Sinn Price Increase 9/1
The issue is tied to resale value. Rolex has been able to hold that value. So far. Signs of market correction may already be here. Kobold has learned that lesson.
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Re: Sinn Price Increase 9/1
You guys just made this Sherpa cry.
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Re: Sinn Price Increase 9/1
At least with a Sinn watch you can rest assured it was quality control checked prior to receipt.CGSshorty wrote:Kobold looks like a bargain now.
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CGSshorty wrote:Kobold looks like a bargain now.
... although I agree that Kobold pricing has been more reasonable lately. I think they even dropped some prices.
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I got lucky. My new Soarway is flawless.streetracer101 wrote:At least with a Sinn watch you can rest assured it was quality control checked prior to receipt.CGSshorty wrote:Kobold looks like a bargain now.
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Re: Sinn Price Increase 9/1
My current Kobold is also excellent.CGSshorty wrote:I got lucky. My new Soarway is flawless.streetracer101 wrote:At least with a Sinn watch you can rest assured it was quality control checked prior to receipt.CGSshorty wrote:Kobold looks like a bargain now.
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Re: Sinn Price Increase 9/1
How many times did you need to send it back in order for it to be excellent?hoppyjr wrote:My current Kobold is also excellent.CGSshorty wrote:I got lucky. My new Soarway is flawless.streetracer101 wrote:At least with a Sinn watch you can rest assured it was quality control checked prior to receipt.CGSshorty wrote:Kobold looks like a bargain now.
Isn't there a story behind the 10 yr warranty?
One of these days Chris might share some of his Kobold QC experiences.
Sinn Price Increase 9/1
First one, the bead blasted case, had a problem with the seconds hand sticking on the minute hand. There was too much paint on the tip of seconds hand (I had requested that mod). I sent it back, then they replaced with new watch with brushed case. That one was perfect from the start.streetracer101 wrote:How many times did you need to send it back in order for it to be excellent?hoppyjr wrote:My current Kobold is also excellent.CGSshorty wrote:I got lucky. My new Soarway is flawless.streetracer101 wrote:At least with a Sinn watch you can rest assured it was quality control checked prior to receipt.CGSshorty wrote:Kobold looks like a bargain now.
Isn't there a story behind the 10 yr warranty?
One of these days Chris might share some of his Kobold QC experiences.
10-year warranty on mine, in part as a gesture to make up for the colossal screw up with servicing my Arctic Diver (which is now owned by someone else). That 10-year warranty is why, if I ever sell my Soarway Diver, it will cost the buyer more than others.
I've told Mike that of he could fix their QC issues they would be golden.
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I agree... Unfortunately I don't see it on the horizon given several other debacles I've heard about recently....and I'm a koolaid drinker at heart.hoppyjr wrote:First one, the bead blasted case, had a problem with the seconds hand sticking on the minute hand. There was too much paint on the tip of seconds hand (I had requested that mod). I sent it back, then they replaced with new watch with brushed case. That one was perfect from the start.streetracer101 wrote:How many times did you need to send it back in order for it to be excellent?hoppyjr wrote:My current Kobold is also excellent.CGSshorty wrote:I got lucky. My new Soarway is flawless.streetracer101 wrote:At least with a Sinn watch you can rest assured it was quality control checked prior to receipt.CGSshorty wrote:Kobold looks like a bargain now.
Isn't there a story behind the 10 yr warranty?
One of these days Chris might share some of his Kobold QC experiences.
10-year warranty on mine, in part as a gesture to make up for the colossal screw up with servicing my Arctic Diver (which is now owned by someone else). That 10-year warranty is why, if I ever sell my Soarway Diver, it will cost the buyer more than others.
I've told Mike that of he could fix their QC issues they would be golden.
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I swear Kobold's problems are caused by a few employees that have outlived their usefulness. He needs to stop being loyal to the dead wood and surround himself with some Bremont level employees.streetracer101 wrote:I agree... Unfortunately I don't see it on the horizon given several other debacles I've heard about recently....and I'm a koolaid drinker at heart.hoppyjr wrote:First one, the bead blasted case, had a problem with the seconds hand sticking on the minute hand. There was too much paint on the tip of seconds hand (I had requested that mod). I sent it back, then they replaced with new watch with brushed case. That one was perfect from the start.streetracer101 wrote:How many times did you need to send it back in order for it to be excellent?hoppyjr wrote:My current Kobold is also excellent.CGSshorty wrote:I got lucky. My new Soarway is flawless.streetracer101 wrote:At least with a Sinn watch you can rest assured it was quality control checked prior to receipt.CGSshorty wrote:Kobold looks like a bargain now.
Isn't there a story behind the 10 yr warranty?
One of these days Chris might share some of his Kobold QC experiences.
10-year warranty on mine, in part as a gesture to make up for the colossal screw up with servicing my Arctic Diver (which is now owned by someone else). That 10-year warranty is why, if I ever sell my Soarway Diver, it will cost the buyer more than others.
I've told Mike that of he could fix their QC issues they would be golden.
"It's such a fine line between stupid, and clever."
David St. Hubbins
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Re: Sinn Price Increase 9/1
I made this suggestion to Mike too, but I don't think he sees it as we do. I agree, the guys are clearly nice and friendly, but if they don't uphold the brand and high standards, they must go. This isn't the first time they have experienced issues.CGSshorty wrote:I swear Kobold's problems are caused by a few employees that have outlived their usefulness. He needs to stop being loyal to the dead wood and surround himself with some Bremont level employees.streetracer101 wrote:I agree... Unfortunately I don't see it on the horizon given several other debacles I've heard about recently....and I'm a koolaid drinker at heart.hoppyjr wrote:First one, the bead blasted case, had a problem with the seconds hand sticking on the minute hand. There was too much paint on the tip of seconds hand (I had requested that mod). I sent it back, then they replaced with new watch with brushed case. That one was perfect from the start.streetracer101 wrote:How many times did you need to send it back in order for it to be excellent?hoppyjr wrote:My current Kobold is also excellent.CGSshorty wrote:I got lucky. My new Soarway is flawless.streetracer101 wrote:At least with a Sinn watch you can rest assured it was quality control checked prior to receipt.CGSshorty wrote:Kobold looks like a bargain now.
Isn't there a story behind the 10 yr warranty?
One of these days Chris might share some of his Kobold QC experiences.
10-year warranty on mine, in part as a gesture to make up for the colossal screw up with servicing my Arctic Diver (which is now owned by someone else). That 10-year warranty is why, if I ever sell my Soarway Diver, it will cost the buyer more than others.
I've told Mike that of he could fix their QC issues they would be golden.
Re: Sinn Price Increase 9/1
Typical
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