A Sinn you don't see everyday

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A Sinn you don't see everyday

Post by rockmastermike » Fri May 15, 2020 9:20 am

TL;DR - cool Sinn cockpit clock that will go only desk when we return to the office

Sinn NaBo 17 ZM from RAF Tornado ZA469

NaBo - NaBo stands for Navigation Borduhr, or on-board navigation clock.
ZM - Zentralminute - central minute counter

It has a bidirectional bezel. 3H Tritium dial & hands. The large black knurled crown at 6 o'clock winds up the movement with start/stop and reset buttons

Tornado Cockpit showing the NaBo 17ZM at the pilot's right

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There are a few really cool things about his particular one:
1) Provenance - most cockpit clocks are pulled from generic aircraft however this one comes from a specific RAF Tornado plane Number ZA469
2) Accompanying paperwork/documentation (see below)
3) ZA469 flew combat IDS missions (interdiction/strike) against ISIS in Afghanistan
4) ZA469 is now on display at the Imperial War Museum Duxford (not rotting in a scrapyard)

An IWM spokeswoman said: "The Tornado GR4 is the most significant combat jet used by the Royal Air Force during the last 27 years and continues in service until 2019.

"The aircraft we've got – ZA 469 – was deployed to Afghanistan between 2011 and 2014, frequently operating in support of ground forces."

Wiki page on the Tornado: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panavia_Tornado

according to the documentation this from RAF Squadron 9 - Wiki page on Squadron 9: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._9_Squadron_RAF

Story goes that this clock eventually ran into problems - not unusual being banged around in a cockpit - and instead of being serviced it was simply replaced (again not unusual) with another one. It was sold as military surplus and eventually found its way to me.

I believe it runs a Valjoux 55 and will probably need to be properly serviced - Mike/RiverRat ?!?

Short video with a Tornado Pilot and Museum staff as it goes into Duxford:



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Re: A Sinn you don't see everyday

Post by Ruggs » Fri May 15, 2020 9:28 am

That is cool, nice find and thanks for sharing!

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Post by jtbenson » Fri May 15, 2020 9:42 am

bravo sir, bra. vo.
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Re: A Sinn you don't see everyday

Post by rockmastermike » Fri May 15, 2020 10:39 am

jtbenson wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 9:42 am
bravo sir, bra. vo.
Ruggs wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 9:28 am
That is cool, nice find and thanks for sharing!
Thank you :cheers:

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Post by gr8sw » Fri May 15, 2020 10:41 am

very nice, congrats! :thumbsup:
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Post by four20 » Fri May 15, 2020 10:49 am

That beats the shit outta my Seiko ship's clock (slaved converted to quart mov't). Truly jealous, Mike :bananastoner:

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Post by raf42 » Fri May 15, 2020 3:59 pm

That's ridiculously cool. :thumbsup:

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Post by Chocodove » Fri May 15, 2020 4:01 pm

Very well done :thumbsup:
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Re: A Sinn you don't see everyday

Post by rockmastermike » Fri May 15, 2020 4:44 pm

four20 wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 10:49 am
That beats the shit outta my Seiko ship's clock (slaved converted to quart mov't). Truly jealous, Mike :bananastoner:
gr8sw wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 10:41 am
very nice, congrats! :thumbsup:
Thanks, gentlemen :cheers:

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Re: A Sinn you don't see everyday

Post by rockmastermike » Fri May 15, 2020 4:45 pm

raf42 wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 3:59 pm
That's ridiculously cool. :thumbsup:
Chocodove wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 4:01 pm
Very well done :thumbsup:
Thank you, I appreciate it :thumbsup:

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Post by mattcantwin » Fri May 15, 2020 6:20 pm

WIS-Treasure! :cheers:
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Post by CarloDWC » Fri May 15, 2020 6:33 pm

Nice one, now you need a nice strap and you will be all set... :lol:

Just kidding, but you are right, we don't see these often. It looks awesome and suggests stories and adventures... no idea how you found it but I am really glad you did and now you have it. :thumbsup:

Does it have a place to wind it? I mean a slot for a key or some knob? I assume it's manual if it has 55 jewels... :grin:

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Post by hobbit712 » Sat May 16, 2020 3:26 am

That is awesome looking. Great find Mike!
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Post by Ryeguy » Sat May 16, 2020 5:03 am

Great find!

@Erik - I don’t know if you noticed, but we’d get a few of those visiting Pease every once in a while years ago. I don’t know if I have any pics, but my buddy in the ANG would let me know when they were around.

Kind of amazing to think a modern (relatively) military fighting aircraft would have a mechanical gauge in its cluster, but also kind of cool too. Micro mechanics live on in our age of high speed computers.

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Post by aikiman44 » Sat May 16, 2020 5:31 am

That like great. Nice find!
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Re: A Sinn you don't see everyday

Post by rockmastermike » Sat May 16, 2020 5:48 am

CarloDWC wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 6:33 pm
Nice one, now you need a nice strap and you will be all set... :lol:

Just kidding, but you are right, we don't see these often. It looks awesome and suggests stories and adventures... no idea how you found it but I am really glad you did and now you have it. :thumbsup:

Does it have a place to wind it? I mean a slot for a key or some knob? I assume it's manual if it has 55 jewels... :grin:
The knurled crown between the "0" and "S" pushers is the winder and pull it for time setting :thumbsup:

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Post by rockmastermike » Sat May 16, 2020 5:50 am

Ryeguy wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 5:03 am
Great find!

@Erik - I don’t know if you noticed, but we’d get a few of those visiting Pease every once in a while years ago. I don’t know if I have any pics, but my buddy in the ANG would let me know when they were around.

Kind of amazing to think a modern (relatively) military fighting aircraft would have a mechanical gauge in its cluster, but also kind of cool too. Micro mechanics live on in our age of high speed computers.
I think it used as purely back up equipment - but still needs to be wound/running for the aircraft to be fully mission capable (FMC)
aikiman44 wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 5:31 am
That like great. Nice find!
hobbit712 wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 3:26 am
That is awesome looking. Great find Mike!
Thanks, guys!

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Re: A Sinn you don't see everyday

Post by rockmastermike » Sat May 16, 2020 5:53 am

20 turns of the crown gets me about 12 hours......how many rotations does this require to be fully wound?
Which leads to my next question...Anyone in the States service these?

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Post by manitoujoe » Sat May 16, 2020 8:38 am

That is awesome!!! My favorite watch company. :)

Congratulations!


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Re: A Sinn you don't see everyday

Post by CarloDWC » Sat May 16, 2020 12:37 pm

rockmastermike wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 5:48 am
CarloDWC wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 6:33 pm
Nice one, now you need a nice strap and you will be all set... :lol:

Just kidding, but you are right, we don't see these often. It looks awesome and suggests stories and adventures... no idea how you found it but I am really glad you did and now you have it. :thumbsup:

Does it have a place to wind it? I mean a slot for a key or some knob? I assume it's manual if it has 55 jewels... :grin:
The knurled crown between the "0" and "S" pushers is the winder and pull it for time setting :thumbsup:
Thank you for the clarification. Cool clock! :thumbsup: :grin:

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Re: A Sinn you don't see everyday

Post by spring-diver » Wed May 20, 2020 4:32 pm

Very cool :thumbsup:

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Re: A Sinn you don't see everyday

Post by rockmastermike » Wed May 20, 2020 4:38 pm

spring-diver wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 4:32 pm
Very cool :thumbsup:

:cheers:
Thank you, Shannon :cheers:

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Post by dukerules » Thu May 21, 2020 2:15 am

That is so cool. Great find.

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Post by Zidane » Thu May 21, 2020 5:57 am

Too cool. Congrats, Mike!

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