Doxa SUB 200 T-Graph grail incoming
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Re: Doxa SUB 200 T-Graph grail incoming
Hey, It's Steve's Doxa stickers that would be the worse worry!!Tallguy wrote:andrema wrote:Congrats Mike!!
BTW - how are you gonna get that Kobold tattoo removed?
Nice pickup Mike
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Re: Doxa SUB 200 T-Graph grail incoming
The T-Graph is one of those Grail vintage pieces... Congrats on the score!
BTW, any idea what the Calibre 287 is? Lemania-based or is it a Valjoux?
BTW, any idea what the Calibre 287 is? Lemania-based or is it a Valjoux?
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I know it was based on the Eberhard Cal. 310-82, and "in house" movement produced by the Eberhard Watch Comany. Known for it's column wheel, rather than a "shuffle cam" of the period and it's robust construction. Synchron owned Eberhard, so that was chosen over the Valjoux
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Re: Doxa SUB 200 T-Graph grail incoming
what frequency?
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Not sure, Cesar. I think I saw 18,000 a/h....whatever that is.
From Dr Petes book, only 1000 of these were made, and 1/3 each color.
"Thanks to Petros Protopapos (he also owns the watch in the above photo) I now have information on the movement used in the SUB 200 T.Graph. The movement labeled "Cal. 287" by Doxa is based on the very high grade EBERHARD Cal. 310-82. It is a 14''' (lignes) movement that was produced "in-house" by The Eberhard Watch Co. and it is a rather special movement. It is one of the most sturdy chronograph movements ever produced and has all the features of a classic chrono movement. It uses a column-wheel to co-ordinate the chronograph-functions instead of the cheaper "Shuttle-Cam" mechanism. It is believed to be the very last original design of the 60s/70s era to utilise a column-wheel. The Eberhard 310 was the base-movement and the 310-82 is the version with the date-ring. In 1969 when Doxa first introduced the "T.Graph" series there were not many movements to choose from and even less that incorporated the date-function as well. Valjoux had one to offer (used by HEUER to produce the world's first chronograph to include a date-feature) and the Lemania/Omega 930 was the other alternative. And of course there was the Eberhard 310-82. It seems that Eberhard (or the company that owned Eberhard back then) was part of the SYNCHRON group of companies at the time, so this provides a credible explanation as to why Doxa chose the Eberhard movement to power the T.Graph. The quality of the Eberhard 310-82 is of extremely high standards and is directly comparable (quality-wise) to the Lemania/Omega 930 (used by Omega for its DeVille Chronographs in the late 1960s)."
From Dr Petes book, only 1000 of these were made, and 1/3 each color.
"Thanks to Petros Protopapos (he also owns the watch in the above photo) I now have information on the movement used in the SUB 200 T.Graph. The movement labeled "Cal. 287" by Doxa is based on the very high grade EBERHARD Cal. 310-82. It is a 14''' (lignes) movement that was produced "in-house" by The Eberhard Watch Co. and it is a rather special movement. It is one of the most sturdy chronograph movements ever produced and has all the features of a classic chrono movement. It uses a column-wheel to co-ordinate the chronograph-functions instead of the cheaper "Shuttle-Cam" mechanism. It is believed to be the very last original design of the 60s/70s era to utilise a column-wheel. The Eberhard 310 was the base-movement and the 310-82 is the version with the date-ring. In 1969 when Doxa first introduced the "T.Graph" series there were not many movements to choose from and even less that incorporated the date-function as well. Valjoux had one to offer (used by HEUER to produce the world's first chronograph to include a date-feature) and the Lemania/Omega 930 was the other alternative. And of course there was the Eberhard 310-82. It seems that Eberhard (or the company that owned Eberhard back then) was part of the SYNCHRON group of companies at the time, so this provides a credible explanation as to why Doxa chose the Eberhard movement to power the T.Graph. The quality of the Eberhard 310-82 is of extremely high standards and is directly comparable (quality-wise) to the Lemania/Omega 930 (used by Omega for its DeVille Chronographs in the late 1960s)."
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Re: Doxa SUB 200 T-Graph grail incoming
Look at the killer watch info being tossed around DWC.
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Re: Doxa SUB 200 T-Graph grail incoming
Love it. You guys are making me want a vintage diver...
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Re: Doxa SUB 200 T-Graph grail incoming
Definitely put the bracelet on that beauty, nice pickup!
Re: Doxa SUB 200 T-Graph grail incoming
Looks like a winner Mike.
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Re: Doxa SUB 200 T-Graph grail incoming
Always exciting when someone gets a grail.
Re: Doxa SUB 200 T-Graph grail incoming
Mike there is an awesome Kobold SOA Automatic on ebay right now.
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Re: Doxa SUB 200 T-Graph grail incoming
You got rid of two Kobolds for this, what were you thinking?
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Re: Doxa SUB 200 T-Graph grail incoming
I agree, the old lume kinda looks like algae... Definitely go for the vintage relume
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Re: Doxa SUB 200 T-Graph grail incoming
you gave me permission...waaaaaaalilhoody wrote:You got rid of two Kobolds for this, what were you thinking?
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Yep, motor city watch works is already lined upTank wrote:I agree, the old lume kinda looks like algae... Definitely go for the vintage relume
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Re: Doxa SUB 200 T-Graph grail incoming
Excellent find, Mike! Congrats. That's the best looking Doxa out there. A little vintage lume and perfect. Can't wait to see the finished product.
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Ha! Yeah I did, that was a good pick up.demer03 wrote:you gave me permission...waaaaaaalilhoody wrote:You got rid of two Kobolds for this, what were you thinking?
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