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First Sub for me…

Post by Wario406 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:19 pm

Ok folks, you gave me great advice while ago on what SMP to buy, now I’m hoping you’ll share advice on my first Rolex Sub.

As you may know, I’m in process of a substantial sell off to find my sub and all in I should be raising about $8.5k. I can stretch a little higher if need be.

I’m thinking of a 5 digit 14060 no date, but am wonder about others.

Also, any recommendations on where to buy?

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Post by Morethan1 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:00 pm

If you do 14060 go with the two liner.
I have a sd 16600 and the I’d prefer a simpler dial. The wall of text can get distracting at times.

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Post by hoppyjr » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:05 pm

I recommend a female, but you’ll hear arguments for a dude from some folks here. Either way, like is often the case on DWC, the straps make the difference.

Also, consider a good gimp mask.

Edit: take the time to choose well, your first sub is a memorable acquisition.

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Post by hoppyjr » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:09 pm

Morethan1 wrote:If you do 14060 go with the two liner.
I have a sd 16600 and the I’d prefer a simpler dial. The wall of text can get distracting at times.
Oh, if we’re talking watches I’d also say 14060. Look for one that isn’t over polished, but I doubt there is much selection at $8500. If you have cash and time, it could work out.

I’d also suggest you consider the now discontinued 39mm Explorer 1 (model 214270). It has a lovely satin-matte dial, excellent bracelet with Easy link extension, and it’s just plain cool. Black dial divers are plentiful.

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Post by BacoNoir » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:10 pm

Morethan1 wrote:If you do 14060 go with the two liner.
I have a sd 16600 and the I’d prefer a simpler dial. The wall of text can get distracting at times.
I’d agree on the two liner.
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Post by Jeep99dad » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:20 pm

I’d go 14060 two liner as well or the new 124060 or if you can stretch the budget
I also think a nice 16570 is an awesome first Rolex.
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Post by Chocodove » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:20 pm

hoppyjr wrote:
Morethan1 wrote:If you do 14060 go with the two liner.
I have a sd 16600 and the I’d prefer a simpler dial. The wall of text can get distracting at times.
Oh, if we’re talking watches I’d also say 14060. Look for one that isn’t over polished, but I doubt there is much selection at $8500. If you have cash and time, it could work out.

I’d also suggest you consider the now discontinued 39mm Explorer 1 (model 214270). It has a lovely satin-matte dial, excellent bracelet with Easy link extension, and it’s just plain cool. Black dial divers are plentiful.
I’m with Ed on the 214270 (MK2 dial). Add the Tudor Ranger to the sell off list to fund it, though the 39mm Explorers may actually be underpriced right now.

Two liner Sub would be ideal, but you’re talking about a used Rolex anywhere from 12-20+ years old and that market is a minefield unless you really know what you are doing (I do not).

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Post by Wario406 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:57 pm

Daymn. Great input and advice all around. I thought about a 39 explorer too. And, is a Rolex 39 $6k more watch than a Ranger? Im truly asking for input. I went into this selling off stock to buy a Sub… not your fault - mine - but, I feel like that’s where I’d like to be. I love my Ranger and it’s more than good enough - but, now I have no SMP - so, I’d really like a diver. I’m inclined to roll the dice on a two line - worst case is I can have it refirb’d. At my age, I dont think/hope that I’ll need to do that more than once before it’s someone else’s problem.
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Post by Wario406 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:14 pm

Jeep99dad wrote:I’d go 14060 two liner as well or the new 124060 or if you can stretch the budget
I also think a nice no is an awesome first Rolex.
I’d love a 124060 but everyone is asking bank for them :-(
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Post by jtbenson » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:27 pm

Wario406 wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:14 pm
I’d love a 124060 but everyone is asking bank for them :-(
give it a month.
maybe two.
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Post by BacoNoir » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:33 pm

Agreed on prices will come down as interest rates continue to rise.

Another point to consider is even if you find one that needs TLC, the Dallas (not NYC) Service Center rocks and you’ll get a brand new looking watch back with a 2 year warranty.
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Post by hoppyjr » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:42 pm

Interesting fact: while James Bond wore a Sub, Ian Fleming actually wore an Explorer.

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Post by Wario406 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:49 pm

Interesting conversation, thanks guys!
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Post by Wario406 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:53 pm

hoppyjr wrote:Interesting fact: while James Bond wore a Sub, Ian Fleming actually wore an Explorer.
Not that it’ll change my ratio, but bond got laid a lot more than Fleming…
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Post by hoppyjr » Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:28 pm

Wario406 wrote:
hoppyjr wrote:Interesting fact: while James Bond wore a Sub, Ian Fleming actually wore an Explorer.
Not that it’ll change my ratio, but bond got laid a lot more than Fleming…
Well, Bond is fictional so I’m thinking it’s the other way around.

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Post by Wario406 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:36 pm

hoppyjr wrote:
Wario406 wrote:
hoppyjr wrote:Interesting fact: while James Bond wore a Sub, Ian Fleming actually wore an Explorer.
Not that it’ll change my ratio, but bond got laid a lot more than Fleming…
Well, Bond is fictional so I’m thinking it’s the other way around.
Tell that to Sean. ;-)
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Post by Baffo » Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:11 pm

If you’re looking for a sub, get a sub!
I think your instincts are correct - 14060 is THE sub imo.
I would go for a late four liner because they’re younger.

Aesthetically, I also loved the 5 digit SD but it wore like shit on my 6.75 wrists: it’s too tall and it flops on the wrist too much.

In terms of where to buy, I had heard good things about hqmilton, but I know one of their OGs (the most respected guy) spun off and founded tropicalwatch.

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Post by Chocodove » Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:35 am

Baffo wrote:
In terms of where to buy, I had heard good things about hqmilton, but I know one of their OGs (the most respected guy) spun off and founded tropicalwatch.
Agree with this. Never bought from either but if I was going to get a “vintage” watch these would be the first place I’d look. They have a great rep and seem to be very honest in their descriptions in regards to condition/polishing.
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Post by R@cerx » Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:52 am

Baffo wrote:
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If you’re looking for a sub, get a sub!
I think your instincts are correct - 14060 is THE sub imo.
I would go for a late four liner because they’re younger.

Aesthetically, I also loved the 5 digit SD but it wore like shit on my 6.75 wrists: it’s too tall and it flops on the wrist too much.

In terms of where to buy, I had heard good things about hqmilton, but I know one of their OGs (the most respected guy) spun off and founded tropicalwatch.
Can't go wrong with TropicalWatch or HQMilton. Watch their sites and take your time.

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Post by PGERRITY » Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:28 am

I’m heading into NYC this weekend. I’ll look around at the usual suspects and see what they have in stock and where they’re at price wise. If there’s something good I’ll pass along the contact info


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Post by Wario406 » Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:58 am

PGERRITY wrote:I’m heading into NYC this weekend. I’ll look around at the usual suspects and see what they have in stock and where they’re at price wise. If there’s something good I’ll pass along the contact info Image


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Post by matt.wu » Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:18 am

My first Sub was a 2-liner no-date 14060M, so it's definitely a special watch to me.

That said, if you've been accustomed to the quality of modern watches for awhile, many aspects of it will be underwhelming (the bracelet especially).

Unless there is a romantic sense of nostalgia you're chasing about the older Subs, I'd echo the nudges to go modern. Maybe an Explorer, but really just pushing a tad (liquidate a little more) for 214060 is probably the right call.
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Post by Wario406 » Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:45 am

Is it possible to put a glide-lock on an older bracelet like a 14060M?
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Post by R@cerx » Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:52 am

Wario406 wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:45 am
Is it possible to put a glide-lock on an older bracelet like a 14060M?
I've seen it done, it's getting one that's a bigger problem.

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Post by hoppyjr » Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:54 am

Wario406 wrote:Is it possible to put a glide-lock on an older bracelet like a 14060M?
Yes, it absolutely fits, but good luck finding a Glidelock clasp. If you do find one, expect to pay $1600-2200.

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