Discussion of Rolex Watches.
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Zidane
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by Zidane » Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:28 pm
JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:21 am
Seppia wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:05 am
Panerai7 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:18 am
JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:13 am
This is on the Rolex radar - RSC NY is requiring an original purchase receipt for warranty work with a non-USA stamped warranty card. I'm sure Dallas and BH aren't far behind.
That's good.
Mhhhh.
partially unrelated, but I personally hate the "non transferable warranty" policy.
I find it completely BS, why shouldn't the warranty be valid if i bought second hand?
#fakenews
It is transferable. It just can't pass through a reseller before entering the hands of the first customer, which is 100% reasonable. The receipt doesn't have to be in your name. But good luck getting David SW to give you an original purchase receipt!
That's incorrect from what I understand. I looked at financing a well respected jeweler (100 years in business) last year; a Rolex and Patek dealer among others. The head of their watch division informed me that Rolex changed the policy about a year ago. The new protocol is for every AD to take a picture/scan of the original warranty card, fully filled out with the original buyers info and send it into Rolex. After that, if the warranty is called into action, the owner must be the original buyer listed on the warranty card for Rolex to cover it as it's cross-referenced.
Not sure if that's actually being done by "the book" so to speak, but that's the new protocol.
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by JP Chestnut » Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:36 pm
Zidane wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:28 pm
JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:21 am
Seppia wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:05 am
Panerai7 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:18 am
JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:13 am
This is on the Rolex radar - RSC NY is requiring an original purchase receipt for warranty work with a non-USA stamped warranty card. I'm sure Dallas and BH aren't far behind.
That's good.
Mhhhh.
partially unrelated, but I personally hate the "non transferable warranty" policy.
I find it completely BS, why shouldn't the warranty be valid if i bought second hand?
#fakenews
It is transferable. It just can't pass through a reseller before entering the hands of the first customer, which is 100% reasonable. The receipt doesn't have to be in your name. But good luck getting David SW to give you an original purchase receipt!
That's incorrect from what I understand. I looked at financing a well respected jeweler (100 years in business) last year; a Rolex and Patek dealer among others. The head of their watch division informed me that Rolex changed the policy about a year ago. The new protocol is for every AD to take a picture/scan of the original warranty card, fully filled out with the original buyers info and send it into Rolex. After that, if the warranty is called into action, the owner must be the original buyer listed on the warranty card for Rolex to cover it as it's cross-referenced.
Not sure if that's actually being done by "the book" so to speak, but that's the new protocol.
That may be the behind the scenes set up, but the Rolex warranty is a full warranty. Full warranties have specific legal obligations. One of which is being transferable. This is all defined by the MAGNUSON-MOSS WARRANTY ACT:
https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/busines ... nuson-Moss
I looked into this last year. Per the current wording of the Rolex warranty it's a full warranty and is consequently transferable. The only qualifying language is about it being sold first to an individual (not a reseller).
Rolex would be subject to a class action lawsuit if they could be shown to be doing what you say. I wish Jeff were still around - this is right up his alley.
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by BBK357 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:49 pm
Panerai7 wrote:BBK357 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:22 pm
JP Chestnut wrote:BBK357 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:11 am
About the whole taking the stickers off deal, Art, I can confirm that not all ADs do that. I picked up a brand new no date from an AD here and I was asked to get the bracelet sized. After I told them no thanks, they handed it over bagged up and that was that. All stickers intact.
When was that?
A couple years ago... I picked it up for someone
Oh that's old news Ben, unfortunately.
I did that as well a few years ago with DSSD and with Pelagos 2 years ago. But last November even BBB that I bought was stripped off all of the plastic
And also, my AD was apologetic but he asked for my Drivers License to fill out the card and register me with Tudor/Rolex.
That is insane.
You can vote in most states without ID but when you buy a Rolex/Tudor you need it, lolz
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by Zidane » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:55 am
JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:36 pm
Zidane wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:28 pm
JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:21 am
Seppia wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:05 am
Panerai7 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:18 am
JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:13 am
This is on the Rolex radar - RSC NY is requiring an original purchase receipt for warranty work with a non-USA stamped warranty card. I'm sure Dallas and BH aren't far behind.
That's good.
Mhhhh.
partially unrelated, but I personally hate the "non transferable warranty" policy.
I find it completely BS, why shouldn't the warranty be valid if i bought second hand?
#fakenews
It is transferable. It just can't pass through a reseller before entering the hands of the first customer, which is 100% reasonable. The receipt doesn't have to be in your name. But good luck getting David SW to give you an original purchase receipt!
That's incorrect from what I understand. I looked at financing a well respected jeweler (100 years in business) last year; a Rolex and Patek dealer among others. The head of their watch division informed me that Rolex changed the policy about a year ago. The new protocol is for every AD to take a picture/scan of the original warranty card, fully filled out with the original buyers info and send it into Rolex. After that, if the warranty is called into action, the owner must be the original buyer listed on the warranty card for Rolex to cover it as it's cross-referenced.
Not sure if that's actually being done by "the book" so to speak, but that's the new protocol.
That may be the behind the scenes set up, but the Rolex warranty is a full warranty. Full warranties have specific legal obligations. One of which is being transferable. This is all defined by the MAGNUSON-MOSS WARRANTY ACT:
https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/busines ... nuson-Moss
I looked into this last year. Per the current wording of the Rolex warranty it's a full warranty and is consequently transferable. The only qualifying language is about it being sold first to an individual (not a reseller).
Rolex would be subject to a class action lawsuit if they could be shown to be doing what you say. I wish Jeff were still around - this is right up his alley.
Good point and I hope you're right...might just be a marketing ploy they tell the dealers.
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by Grahamcombat » Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:57 pm
I just bought a brand new BLNR, over the phone, from a dealer, and had the card filled out in someone else’s name and shipped to them.
So, you don’t really need to present an ID when buying.
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by fastward » Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:42 pm
The AD that my company works with has quoted a 2-3 year wait on the SS Daytona and wouldn’t commit to a timeline for the Sea Dweller. They told me that they cannot find them.
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by JP Chestnut » Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:46 pm
A three year wait seems pretty reasonable.
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by fastward » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:03 pm
JP Chestnut wrote:A three year wait seems pretty reasonable.
It sure beats the Project 300 watch.
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by JP Chestnut » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:20 pm
fastward wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:03 pm
JP Chestnut wrote:A three year wait seems pretty reasonable.
It sure beats the Project 300 watch.
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Plus you get a real watch, not a stupid toy.
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by fastward » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:31 pm
JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:20 pm
fastward wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:03 pm
JP Chestnut wrote:A three year wait seems pretty reasonable.
It sure beats the Project 300 watch.
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Plus you get a real watch, not a stupid toy.
I didn’t want a toy, but I also didn’t want to wait.
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by Panerai7 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:40 pm
Already started seeing some trusted TRF dealers selling supposedly BNIB but without stickers and card named. Ha it's happening.
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by dukerules » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:00 am
It's hard to argue that this watch is a nice move for Rolex. Sized up but still wearable, and that red line is amazing. But for me, a Sea-Dweller should never have a cyclops. This is going to look fantastic if/when you fix that minor "issue."
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by TSD » Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:28 pm
dukerules wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:00 am
It's hard to argue that this watch is a nice move for Rolex. Sized up but still wearable, and that red line is amazing. But for me, a Sea-Dweller should never have a cyclops. This is going to look fantastic if/when you fix that minor "issue."
Finally have an update, and added to my initial post after exploring a LAWW replacement crystal. Appreciated Master Wu connecting me with his experts, and LAWW researching to come up with a solution. Unfortunately, the all-new dimensions for this crystal mean no options yet for an after market version.
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by matt.wu » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:33 pm
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by Panerai7 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:16 am
I thought you already knew that when you bought it. I remember we discussed before how SDC43 and polar exporer2 42mm don't have crystal replacement available.
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by TSD » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:31 am
Panerai7 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:16 am
I thought you already knew that when you bought it. I remember we discussed before how SDC43 and polar exporer2 42mm don't have crystal replacement available.
I was optimistic. If a custom crystal can be cut, they would probably be the ones to source it.
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by TSD » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:07 pm
Just updating the thread to note the dial change to the 126600, after the first year of “anniversary” production. Rolex added a coronet between Swiss Made, same as the DSSD, etc.
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by hoppyjr » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:19 pm
TSD wrote:Just updating the thread to note the dial change to the 126600, after the first year of “anniversary” production. Rolex added a coronet between Swiss Made, same as the DSSD, etc.
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....because they don’t have enough coronets on the watch.
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by TSD » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:57 pm
hoppyjr wrote: ↑Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:19 pm
TSD wrote:Just updating the thread to note the dial change to the 126600, after the first year of “anniversary” production. Rolex added a coronet between Swiss Made, same as the DSSD, etc.
....because they don’t have enough coronets on the watch.
Most have 9 or 10. This new one goes to 11.
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by TSD » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:35 pm
Interesting Rolex update. I picked up an aftermarket sapphire to switch out the OEM crystal, in an attempt to remove the cyclops on the SD43. Our watchmaker has handled an OEM crystal where the cyclops was removed and it didn’t come off clean, due to the new adhesion technology. They’ll need an extra OEM gasket to even try to fit the aftermarket sapphire, and unfortunately, there are now two more obstacles to this mod.
Apparently, Rolex came down hard on ADs and parts account holders in S. Florida recently, and getting an OEM gasket to fit this crystal is not feasible at the moment. After catching some ADs hoarding watches or taking money under the table, Rolex is turning up the pressure by pulling some ADs cards and choking out local access to parts. Reading between the lines, this is definitely becoming a widespread trend, and we may see independents unable to get parts to service the newer references.
The mod would be great if an OEM crystal gasket could be safely reused, but apparently that’s not the case here. It would be a shame to try, and then have to pay for a full RSC service, just to get the original crystal put back in place. At this point, I think the price of modding this watch might’ve gotten too steep, as Rolex takes away access to its parts.
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by dukerules » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:12 pm
Man, that's too bad, Tom. This watch would be so much better without the cyclops.
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by hoppyjr » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:30 pm
You know how I feel about the stupid cyclops, but I’m kinda glad you’re not putting an aftermarket crystal on that beautiful watch.
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by BacoNoir » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:24 pm
dukerules wrote:Man, that's too bad, Tom. This watch would be so much better without the cyclops.
Plus 1 Tom. Was hoping you could pull it off because I think that’d be a damn near perfect watch.
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by SoCal C4S » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:55 pm
Or we could just work out a trade for my James Cameron. I don’t mind the cyclops.
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by dukerules » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:02 am
Although let's be honest, this watch is incredible as is, cyclops or not.
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