A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

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A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by JP Chestnut » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:09 pm

Hey All,

I mentioned in another thread that I picked up a NOS 16610LV. It arrived and I snapped some (terrible) pictures.

I just happened to be doing my periodic checking of the various used/vintage dealer websites (HQ Milton, Iconic, ten past 10, etc) and decided to check out Crown and Caliber. I tend to stay away from these anonymous big time pro sellers since they often overprice shit quality watches. I'd say Crown and Caliber fits that description pretty well with one exception - I've seen a few NOS Rolex watches (circa 2000-2009) at "that can't be right" prices. I narrowly missed a full set NOS Explorer 1 for around $3750 for instance.

In any case, I saw this LV at such a price and decided to take a chance. I bought it on my credit card (no extra $$ for using the CC which is nice) to protect myself. The watch showed up, and it is indeed NOS (no case back sticker but all others in place) with a full box and papers (sans the instructions which I might hit them up for). The papers were even un-named which is always a nice surprise.

The watch arrived in this box:
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I was pretty surprised to see the Rolex box inside with just some simple paper to cushion the blows. I dumped out the box, ready to be pissed off and found:
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However there was a second box inside:
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Inside that was the most securely packaged watch I've ever received (and I've bought from almost all the forum sellers)
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The watch head was fitted with a red anti-tampering sticker (I assume to thwart movement swaps) and the whole thing was nicely wrapped in thick plastic
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The Crown and Caliber packaging absolutely shames everything I've ever seen before. Kudos to them.

Now the watch
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That's my toilet. Here's a wrist shot
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Yes my wrist is tiny.

It's a Z serial without the rehaut engraving (which I still don't care for). No, it's not a Mark 1 flat 4, but it does have the (IMO at least) nicer (not baby shit) green insert and it's unpolished (which it seems I can't let go of).

We get the periodic "is this Rolex unpolished" questions, so here are a few for reference. Clasp:
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Chamfer:
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Crown guards:
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All-in-all, I paid somewhere between $2,000 and $6,000+ less than the forum dealers charge for an identical watch, and it came with a one year warranty. I could flip it for a profit, but I won't. I'm going to wear it and give it to my daughter when I'm too old to care about watches. I haven't pulled off the stickers yet, but I will soon.

I would definitely buy from Crown and Caliber again, and I would strongly suggest people add their site to their watch dealer checking out rotation. You will almost never find anything great, but when you do - it could be the steal of the decade.

Thanks for reading. Now I just need to find one of those knock off glidelock clasps to complete the package!

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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by rockmastermike » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:14 pm

Great looking LV and nice to hear 'bout the boys from the ATL!

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Post by CGSshorty » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:19 pm

That's one of the coolest watches Rolwx ever made.
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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by Chocodove » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:20 pm

Very nice, Jacob. Congrats on finding one that meets your (lofty) expectations :lol:

PS: Stick a green bezel on a Ginault and you could have saved $8-10K.
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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by dukerules » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:22 pm

That is glorious. Lucky bastard.

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Post by BacoNoir » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:30 pm

My favorite of the LVs - congrats!
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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by JP Chestnut » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:31 pm

Chocodove wrote:Very nice, Jacob. Congrats on finding one that meets your (lofty) expectations :lol:

PS: Stick a green bezel on a Ginault and you could have saved $8-10K.
Picky and cheap is a bad combo. Picky, cheap, and lucky seems to work though. I'm going for an all blue Ginault. Think bigger - I'd save $29,000!

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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by Zidane » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:31 pm

Dammit! If I would have known that was around, I would have bought it! I was at their HQ last week...

Great guys over there. Glad you scored a great deal!

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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by jimyritz » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:33 pm

nice work Jacob---you certainly do your homework...
very cool piece for sure.. Congrats. :thumbsup:

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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by YOHOHO » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:45 pm

Awesome! Great when the delivered piece meets expectations.

Congrats!

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Post by foodle » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:46 pm

Nice :thumbsup:

I stay off those sites, or else I get myself in trouble ...

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Post by sinner » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:59 pm

Knocked it out of the park...
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Post by TSD » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:07 pm

Wow, an NOS LV! Great find, Jacob. Such a cool watch. :cheers:
I enjoyed the search for my Triple-Six like you did. It's rewarding when you catch the right deal and aren't taken for a ride.

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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by Torrid » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:08 pm

That might be my favorite version of the Sub. What a gloriously beautiful example.

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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by toxicavenger » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:14 pm

Nice Jacob, and those TRF guys get crazy about some LV crap and mark them up for top dollar.

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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by Panerai7 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:27 pm

Congrats Jacob, nice score !

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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by hoppyjr » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:42 pm

Excellent find...Congrats!

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Post by ericf4 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:21 pm

Real nice.

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Post by Captdave » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:35 pm

Great score! Very impressive.
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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by marchone » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:35 pm

Sweet snag.
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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by matt.wu » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:47 pm

Nice! I've wanted another LV, but I could never buy NOS. I want an unpolished but beat up specimen for cheaper.

Scratches don't bother me, but polishing does.

Good review. Appreciate it!
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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by blkgsl » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:03 pm

I'm with matt. I don't mind scratches at all - it hurts me to peel stickers.


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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by logan2z » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:21 pm

blkgsl wrote:it hurts me to peel stickers.
That's the best part :shrug:

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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by dosei » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:17 am

Congrats! NOS that's awesome!

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Re: A Special Incoming and a Dealer Review

Post by dinexus » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:46 am

Agree, isn't always a steal at C&C, but they're some of the nicest dudes I've met in the industry. Killer score too!


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