Black Bay GMT, 58, S&G & Tudor 1926 First Impressions

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Re: Black Bay GMT, 58, S&G & Tudor 1926 First Impressions

Post by jswing » Sun May 20, 2018 9:43 am

I read 47.5 LTL. It's about the size of a 14060, which for me is perfect.

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Post by BlueSky » Sun May 20, 2018 11:38 am

Thanks JP and Jeff.

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Post by hoppyjr » Sun May 20, 2018 12:02 pm

My buddy John and I are attending the local Rolex / Tudor preview on Wednesday, so I’ll check this sucker out. I really don’t understand the crown design, other than that they wanted to be different. The “guts” of the crown are basically like the other Rolex stuff.

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Re: Black Bay GMT, 58, S&G & Tudor 1926 First Impressions

Post by TimelessLuxWatches » Tue May 22, 2018 12:32 pm

hoppyjr wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 12:02 pm
My buddy John and I are attending the local Rolex / Tudor preview on Wednesday, so I’ll check this sucker out. I really don’t understand the crown design, other than that they wanted to be different. The “guts” of the crown are basically like the other Rolex stuff.
It comes from the historic 7924 "Big Crown" model.

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As per why the model, new in '58, was like that, I can only speculate that it may have been intended to be easier to operate with gloves on, but that's just a guess.

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Post by hoppyjr » Tue May 22, 2018 12:46 pm

TimelessLuxWatches wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 12:32 pm
hoppyjr wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 12:02 pm
My buddy John and I are attending the local Rolex / Tudor preview on Wednesday, so I’ll check this sucker out. I really don’t understand the crown design, other than that they wanted to be different. The “guts” of the crown are basically like the other Rolex stuff.
It comes from the historic 7924 "Big Crown" model.

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As per why the model, new in '58, was like that, I can only speculate that it may have been intended to be easier to operate with gloves on, but that's just a guess.

Yes, but that watch used a Rolex big crown, not a goofy one with an aluminum sleeve. ;)

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Post by TimelessLuxWatches » Tue May 22, 2018 12:55 pm

I like quirky watches lol, like the pushers on the SBGC001/201.

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Post by jswing » Tue May 22, 2018 1:06 pm

hoppyjr wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 12:46 pm
TimelessLuxWatches wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 12:32 pm
hoppyjr wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 12:02 pm
My buddy John and I are attending the local Rolex / Tudor preview on Wednesday, so I’ll check this sucker out. I really don’t understand the crown design, other than that they wanted to be different. The “guts” of the crown are basically like the other Rolex stuff.
It comes from the historic 7924 "Big Crown" model.

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As per why the model, new in '58, was like that, I can only speculate that it may have been intended to be easier to operate with gloves on, but that's just a guess.

Yes, but that watch used a Rolex big crown, not a goofy one with an aluminum sleeve. ;)
I don't think the BB58 has the aluminum sleeve, I think I read that it's a plain steel stem.

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Post by TimelessLuxWatches » Tue May 22, 2018 1:14 pm

That seems to be true, and the '58, not coincidentally, is named after the year of the first Big Crown model, so perhaps that's intentional.

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Post by Panerai7 » Tue May 22, 2018 1:18 pm

jswing wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:06 pm
hoppyjr wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 12:46 pm
TimelessLuxWatches wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 12:32 pm
hoppyjr wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 12:02 pm
My buddy John and I are attending the local Rolex / Tudor preview on Wednesday, so I’ll check this sucker out. I really don’t understand the crown design, other than that they wanted to be different. The “guts” of the crown are basically like the other Rolex stuff.
It comes from the historic 7924 "Big Crown" model.

Image

As per why the model, new in '58, was like that, I can only speculate that it may have been intended to be easier to operate with gloves on, but that's just a guess.

Yes, but that watch used a Rolex big crown, not a goofy one with an aluminum sleeve. ;)
I don't think the BB58 has the aluminum sleeve, I think I read that it's a plain steel stem.
Same for GMT which is great as well
I can see myself picking it up for sure

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Re: Black Bay GMT, 58, S&G & Tudor 1926 First Impressions

Post by sierra11b » Wed May 23, 2018 10:20 am

Faux rivets kill these for me.

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Post by TimelessLuxWatches » Wed May 23, 2018 11:19 am

sierra11b wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 10:20 am
Faux rivets kill these for me.
That's why I'd get it on the fabric strap. More affordable as well.

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Post by Joeprez » Wed May 23, 2018 11:21 am

58 on bracelet for me, absolutely love it. I would change the crown (as mentioned) to just screw all the way, but its not an issue for me. That size, from brand with a lot of history and with an inhouse movement with a great power reserve... it's a steal.

I bet they do a blue dial in the next year or two.

And yes, when they eventually make a gmt in the 58 case, I will also have to get one.
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Post by JP Chestnut » Wed May 23, 2018 11:25 am

The 41mm version fits the earlier not riveted bracelet.

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Post by JP Chestnut » Wed May 23, 2018 11:27 am

Joeprez wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:21 am
58 on bracelet for me, absolutely love it. I would change the crown (as mentioned) to just screw all the way, but its not an issue for me. That size, from brand with a lot of history and with an inhouse movement with a great power reserve... it's a steal.

I bet they do a blue dial in the next year or two.

And yes, when they eventually make a gmt in the 58 case, I will also have to get one.
Blue dial? No gilt or piss lume?

TAKE MY MONEY.

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Post by hoppyjr » Wed May 23, 2018 11:28 am

JP Chestnut wrote:The 41mm version fits the earlier not riveted bracelet.
.....but also has the goofy crown.

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Post by sierra11b » Wed May 23, 2018 11:32 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:27 am
Joeprez wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:21 am
58 on bracelet for me, absolutely love it. I would change the crown (as mentioned) to just screw all the way, but its not an issue for me. That size, from brand with a lot of history and with an inhouse movement with a great power reserve... it's a steal.

I bet they do a blue dial in the next year or two.

And yes, when they eventually make a gmt in the 58 case, I will also have to get one.
Blue dial? No gilt or piss lume?

TAKE MY MONEY.
I probably would make an exception for the bracelet if this happened. Or make it a dedicated nato watch.

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Post by Panerai7 » Wed May 23, 2018 11:35 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:27 am
Joeprez wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:21 am
58 on bracelet for me, absolutely love it. I would change the crown (as mentioned) to just screw all the way, but its not an issue for me. That size, from brand with a lot of history and with an inhouse movement with a great power reserve... it's a steal.

I bet they do a blue dial in the next year or two.

And yes, when they eventually make a gmt in the 58 case, I will also have to get one.
Blue dial? No gilt or piss lume?

TAKE MY MONEY.
If anything it'll be blue bezel and black dial like BBB
Honestly I liked my BB Noir with the gilt and all that.

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Post by JP Chestnut » Wed May 23, 2018 11:49 am

Panerai7 wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:35 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:27 am
Joeprez wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:21 am
58 on bracelet for me, absolutely love it. I would change the crown (as mentioned) to just screw all the way, but its not an issue for me. That size, from brand with a lot of history and with an inhouse movement with a great power reserve... it's a steal.

I bet they do a blue dial in the next year or two.

And yes, when they eventually make a gmt in the 58 case, I will also have to get one.
Blue dial? No gilt or piss lume?

TAKE MY MONEY.
If anything it'll be blue bezel and black dial like BBB
Honestly I liked my BB Noir with the gilt and all that.
It could see them remaking the BB blue, but that blue snowflake is just sitting there begging to get remade. The funky blue Pelagos doesn’t count.

The 41mm BB Black is less “gilt” than the 58 due to the silver insert. I like that design better.

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TimelessLuxWatches wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 10:39 am

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And people say Millenials aren't interested in watches.... :lol:

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Post by JP Chestnut » Wed May 23, 2018 12:20 pm

Is that fat guy in the middle a DWC’er?

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Post by Panerai7 » Wed May 23, 2018 12:35 pm

JP Chestnut wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:49 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:35 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:27 am
Joeprez wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:21 am
58 on bracelet for me, absolutely love it. I would change the crown (as mentioned) to just screw all the way, but its not an issue for me. That size, from brand with a lot of history and with an inhouse movement with a great power reserve... it's a steal.

I bet they do a blue dial in the next year or two.

And yes, when they eventually make a gmt in the 58 case, I will also have to get one.
Blue dial? No gilt or piss lume?

TAKE MY MONEY.
If anything it'll be blue bezel and black dial like BBB
Honestly I liked my BB Noir with the gilt and all that.
It could see them remaking the BB blue, but that blue snowflake is just sitting there begging to get remade. The funky blue Pelagos doesn’t count.

The 41mm BB Black is less “gilt” than the 58 due to the silver insert. I like that design better.
Very true, keep forgetting that 58's bezel is also gilt

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Post by matt.wu » Wed May 23, 2018 12:52 pm

pbj204 wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 12:00 pm
TimelessLuxWatches wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 10:39 am

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And people say Millenials aren't interested in watches.... :lol:
:lol: :lol:
:htfu:

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Re: Black Bay GMT, 58, S&G & Tudor 1926 First Impressions

Post by TimelessLuxWatches » Wed May 23, 2018 2:06 pm

JP Chestnut wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:49 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:35 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:27 am
Joeprez wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:21 am
58 on bracelet for me, absolutely love it. I would change the crown (as mentioned) to just screw all the way, but its not an issue for me. That size, from brand with a lot of history and with an inhouse movement with a great power reserve... it's a steal.

I bet they do a blue dial in the next year or two.

And yes, when they eventually make a gmt in the 58 case, I will also have to get one.
Blue dial? No gilt or piss lume?

TAKE MY MONEY.
If anything it'll be blue bezel and black dial like BBB
Honestly I liked my BB Noir with the gilt and all that.
It could see them remaking the BB blue, but that blue snowflake is just sitting there begging to get remade. The funky blue Pelagos doesn’t count.

The 41mm BB Black is less “gilt” than the 58 due to the silver insert. I like that design better.

I love the blue Pelagos, but yeah, a blue Black Bay 58 homage to the original Snowflake models would be awesome.

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Re: Black Bay GMT, 58, S&G & Tudor 1926 First Impressions

Post by dukerules » Sun May 27, 2018 5:27 am

Oh hell, after thinking about this, I think I'm going to need that 58 at some point. It really is everything I've wanted in a throwback Sub-perfect size, gilt everywhere, red triangle on the bezel, and chamfers. I'll overlook the crown issue. Someday, someone is going to release aftermarket mercedes hands for these, and that will make this even better.

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Re: Black Bay GMT, 58, S&G & Tudor 1926 First Impressions

Post by dukerules » Sun May 27, 2018 5:32 am

I've always wanted one of these (and don't have Smellody money for one :lol:):
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And an "official" Rolex-ish homage to this is about as good as it's ever going to get for most of us:
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The Tempus Machina guys actually did a really nice homage to these recently, but the BB58 seems a bit purer to me, not to mention about an eighth of the price:
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