I wish there were enough new watches that didn't suck so I could become an AD "high roller", instead of subjecting myself to forum "dealers" while hunting down long discontinued references.Panerai7 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:01 amI'll be okay. I gotta get ready for Pepsi and don't want to put any more money into this silly hobby. Even though no one knows when it's going to be my turn. My AD told me flat out first 3-5 will go to their "high-rollers" who spent 100K++ with them in Jewelry.JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:56 amI was pretty surprised when you gave up the Ti PAM. That watch just screamed "Art".
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They prefer in jewelry not watches. The mark up is ridiculously highJP Chestnut wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:05 amI wish there were enough new watches that didn't suck so I could become an AD "high roller", instead of subjecting myself to forum "dealers" while hunting down long discontinued references.Panerai7 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:01 amI'll be okay. I gotta get ready for Pepsi and don't want to put any more money into this silly hobby. Even though no one knows when it's going to be my turn. My AD told me flat out first 3-5 will go to their "high-rollers" who spent 100K++ with them in Jewelry.JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:56 amI was pretty surprised when you gave up the Ti PAM. That watch just screamed "Art".
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I don't doubt that.Panerai7 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:37 amThey prefer in jewelry not watches. The mark up is ridiculously highJP Chestnut wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:05 amI wish there were enough new watches that didn't suck so I could become an AD "high roller", instead of subjecting myself to forum "dealers" while hunting down long discontinued references.Panerai7 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:01 amI'll be okay. I gotta get ready for Pepsi and don't want to put any more money into this silly hobby. Even though no one knows when it's going to be my turn. My AD told me flat out first 3-5 will go to their "high-rollers" who spent 100K++ with them in Jewelry.JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:56 amI was pretty surprised when you gave up the Ti PAM. That watch just screamed "Art".
I searched all the high end jewelery forums when i bought my wife's engagement ring. I found the most popular low margin online diamond seller and bought his highest quality diamond for her ring. I took it loose and went to a bunch of really nice jewelry stores looking for an equivalently graded/cut diamond. They were all 5 to 6 times the price. It was pretty eye opening.
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Yep 500-600% mark up is common.JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:42 amI don't doubt that.Panerai7 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:37 amThey prefer in jewelry not watches. The mark up is ridiculously highJP Chestnut wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:05 amI wish there were enough new watches that didn't suck so I could become an AD "high roller", instead of subjecting myself to forum "dealers" while hunting down long discontinued references.Panerai7 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:01 amI'll be okay. I gotta get ready for Pepsi and don't want to put any more money into this silly hobby. Even though no one knows when it's going to be my turn. My AD told me flat out first 3-5 will go to their "high-rollers" who spent 100K++ with them in Jewelry.JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:56 amI was pretty surprised when you gave up the Ti PAM. That watch just screamed "Art".
I searched all the high end jewelery forums when i bought my wife's engagement ring. I found the most popular low margin online diamond seller and bought his highest quality diamond for her ring. I took it loose and went to a bunch of really nice jewelry stores looking for an equivalently graded/cut diamond. They were all 5 to 6 times the price. It was pretty eye opening.
A NASCAR driver or Carolina Panther walks in and buys a 100K worth of chachkis and asks if they have a GMT Pepsi, we sure do
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This. Loved my PO, but the 2500 Coax movement gave me fits. Multiple times back to Nesbits before I sold it. It was the C movement but it had the intermediate escape wheel upgrade, and still stopped at year 4 and then a year after the service.
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If mine gives me a single problem it would get serviced and sold immediately.
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Interesting photos showing size of BB58. Compares well to pre-ceramic subs.
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Wow. The BB58 looks incredible. That profile shot does it for me.
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Now I’m thinking dirty thoughts.....again. 114060 Sub + BB58 and out?
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I tried both on last week at AD
Ed, 58 is too small for us, it really is for an under 7" wrist. Which is great 'cause everyone said BBB is too this and that.
Also I loved GMT on my wrist, they shaved/chamfered the sides of the case kind of like Seiko does at the point of contact with the wrist. It looks less of a slab. Still has the lug holes in the wrong place though
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Thanks Art. Maybe we will get lucky and see a revised standard sized Black Bay one day. Make it thinner and lose the goofy aluminum crown sleeve, then I’m back in the Tudor family.Panerai7 wrote:I tried both on last week at AD
Ed, 58 is too small for us, it really is for an under 7" wrist. Which is great 'cause everyone said BBB is too this and that.
Also I loved GMT on my wrist, they shaved/chamfered the sides of the case kind of like Seiko does at the point of contact with the wrist. It looks less of a slab. Still has the lug holes in the wrong place though
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Some less than ideal shots from the event
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I'll come back for that one + drill the holes in the right spot between lugs, that watch is horrible with straps unless you make them fat at the lugs specifically for that watch and then those straps won't fit on any other watcheshoppyjr wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:42 amThanks Art. Maybe we will get lucky and see a revised standard sized Black Bay one day. Make it thinner and lose the goofy aluminum crown sleeve, then I’m back in the Tudor family.Panerai7 wrote:I tried both on last week at AD
Ed, 58 is too small for us, it really is for an under 7" wrist. Which is great 'cause everyone said BBB is too this and that.
Also I loved GMT on my wrist, they shaved/chamfered the sides of the case kind of like Seiko does at the point of contact with the wrist. It looks less of a slab. Still has the lug holes in the wrong place though
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I'm really torn between the GMT and the BB58.
I actually think the GMT offers a better value proposition due to the movement. I am thrilled they are offering a true traveler's dual time zone watch at (relatively) affordable pricing. The domed sapphire is nicely done and the date without the cyclops is as well integrated as a date can be. Combine this with solid 200m water resistance and I think you have about as optimal an adventure watch as you could hope for.
That BB58 certainly looks good though. I see this one being an iconic watch in 10 to 15 years.
I'll start poking my head into AD's to see which fits better.
I actually think the GMT offers a better value proposition due to the movement. I am thrilled they are offering a true traveler's dual time zone watch at (relatively) affordable pricing. The domed sapphire is nicely done and the date without the cyclops is as well integrated as a date can be. Combine this with solid 200m water resistance and I think you have about as optimal an adventure watch as you could hope for.
That BB58 certainly looks good though. I see this one being an iconic watch in 10 to 15 years.
I'll start poking my head into AD's to see which fits better.
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The BB58 is too small even for me. So it’s a pass. GMT and 1926 white dial were my fave at the event.
The beveled lower edge of the GMT case helps to thin out the profile. I wasn’t as wow’d as I expected to be though.
The beveled lower edge of the GMT case helps to thin out the profile. I wasn’t as wow’d as I expected to be though.
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