All of Tudor's New Baselworld 2018 Releases

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Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:56 am

I was pretty surprised when you gave up the Ti PAM. That watch just screamed "Art".

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Post by logan2z » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:59 am

Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:54 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:33 am
logan2z wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:30 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:07 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:19 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:10 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:12 am
Jeep99dad wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:04 am
JP Chestnut wrote:I want one. I'm also cheap. You can always wait the two weeks for everyone on here to flip theirs.

It's so hard for me to justify watches in the $3500 range. For a few thousand more, I could add another five-digit Rolex :scratch: Newer watches are definitely more wearable though. My EZ link Daytona is really comfortable and convenient.
“For a few thousand more...” Image
So twice as much Image baller Image
I wish! I've been hunting the perfect collection of pre-ceramic Rolex for years... while watching their prices skyrocket. All I need is a
17000 Oysterquartz
14060M
16570 Explorer 2
114720 Explorer

and then I'll finally be done. Any watch I buy that's not on the list just puts me a little farther away. Even so, if the 58 follows the regular BB's depreciation it's going to get bought eventually.

Unfortunately, or fortunately, I guess, my wife counts my watch accumulation in terms of pure numbers, not price. One Daytona seems less objectionable to her than three cheaper watches.
Thos are all iconic watches
Of course Tudor 58 at under 3K from AD is a no-brainer and "inexpensive" enough to wear everwhere
It's true. I'd seriously consider flipping my somewhat too large PO2500 for one. It should be a pretty similar value. I just hate getting rid of stuff I like.
2500 is a great watch. But Tudor/Rolex 70-hr in-house mov't for that kinda money is a deal of the century.
I never thought I'd buy a Tudor/Rolex anything, but I have to admit that the BB58 has turned my head a little and I've given some thought to flipping my PO2500 to fund one. But I agree that the PO2500 is (or is soon to be) a classic and I may regret that. Especially since I don't think that current used prices really reflect the future value of the PO.
It seems like the PO2500 is the last Omega diver that I would ever think about owning. Every year their stuff gets worse. It would be a radical turnaround for them to introduce something that I would want.
Guys, I'm not suggesting you give up your 2500 :thumbsup: I wouldn't mind getting 45mm myself in 2500-D flavor. I'm just saying Tudor 58 is phenomenal for its price.
I wasn't considering it because you suggested it :) Just saying that I was also considering flipping my 2500 as Jacob was. But I'll probably hang onto it (it is a 45mm D) and add the BB58 at some point.

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Post by Panerai7 » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:01 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:56 am
I was pretty surprised when you gave up the Ti PAM. That watch just screamed "Art".
I'll be okay. I gotta get ready for Pepsi and don't want to put any more money into this silly hobby. Even though no one knows when it's going to be my turn. My AD told me flat out first 3-5 will go to their "high-rollers" who spent 100K++ with them in Jewelry.

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Post by Panerai7 » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:03 am

logan2z wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:59 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:54 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:33 am
logan2z wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:30 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:07 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:19 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:10 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:12 am
Jeep99dad wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:04 am
JP Chestnut wrote:I want one. I'm also cheap. You can always wait the two weeks for everyone on here to flip theirs.

It's so hard for me to justify watches in the $3500 range. For a few thousand more, I could add another five-digit Rolex :scratch: Newer watches are definitely more wearable though. My EZ link Daytona is really comfortable and convenient.
“For a few thousand more...” Image
So twice as much Image baller Image
I wish! I've been hunting the perfect collection of pre-ceramic Rolex for years... while watching their prices skyrocket. All I need is a
17000 Oysterquartz
14060M
16570 Explorer 2
114720 Explorer

and then I'll finally be done. Any watch I buy that's not on the list just puts me a little farther away. Even so, if the 58 follows the regular BB's depreciation it's going to get bought eventually.

Unfortunately, or fortunately, I guess, my wife counts my watch accumulation in terms of pure numbers, not price. One Daytona seems less objectionable to her than three cheaper watches.
Thos are all iconic watches
Of course Tudor 58 at under 3K from AD is a no-brainer and "inexpensive" enough to wear everwhere
It's true. I'd seriously consider flipping my somewhat too large PO2500 for one. It should be a pretty similar value. I just hate getting rid of stuff I like.
2500 is a great watch. But Tudor/Rolex 70-hr in-house mov't for that kinda money is a deal of the century.
I never thought I'd buy a Tudor/Rolex anything, but I have to admit that the BB58 has turned my head a little and I've given some thought to flipping my PO2500 to fund one. But I agree that the PO2500 is (or is soon to be) a classic and I may regret that. Especially since I don't think that current used prices really reflect the future value of the PO.
It seems like the PO2500 is the last Omega diver that I would ever think about owning. Every year their stuff gets worse. It would be a radical turnaround for them to introduce something that I would want.
Guys, I'm not suggesting you give up your 2500 :thumbsup: I wouldn't mind getting 45mm myself in 2500-D flavor. I'm just saying Tudor 58 is phenomenal for its price.
I wasn't considering it because you suggested it :) Just saying that I was also considering flipping my 2500 as Jacob was. But I'll probably hang onto it (it is a 45mm D) and add the BB58 at some point.
Now, that sounds like a solid plan bud :cheers:

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Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:05 am

Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:01 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:56 am
I was pretty surprised when you gave up the Ti PAM. That watch just screamed "Art".
I'll be okay. I gotta get ready for Pepsi and don't want to put any more money into this silly hobby. Even though no one knows when it's going to be my turn. My AD told me flat out first 3-5 will go to their "high-rollers" who spent 100K++ with them in Jewelry.
I wish there were enough new watches that didn't suck so I could become an AD "high roller", instead of subjecting myself to forum "dealers" while hunting down long discontinued references.

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Post by Panerai7 » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:37 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:05 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:01 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:56 am
I was pretty surprised when you gave up the Ti PAM. That watch just screamed "Art".
I'll be okay. I gotta get ready for Pepsi and don't want to put any more money into this silly hobby. Even though no one knows when it's going to be my turn. My AD told me flat out first 3-5 will go to their "high-rollers" who spent 100K++ with them in Jewelry.
I wish there were enough new watches that didn't suck so I could become an AD "high roller", instead of subjecting myself to forum "dealers" while hunting down long discontinued references.
They prefer in jewelry not watches. The mark up is ridiculously high

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Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:42 am

Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:37 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:05 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:01 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:56 am
I was pretty surprised when you gave up the Ti PAM. That watch just screamed "Art".
I'll be okay. I gotta get ready for Pepsi and don't want to put any more money into this silly hobby. Even though no one knows when it's going to be my turn. My AD told me flat out first 3-5 will go to their "high-rollers" who spent 100K++ with them in Jewelry.
I wish there were enough new watches that didn't suck so I could become an AD "high roller", instead of subjecting myself to forum "dealers" while hunting down long discontinued references.
They prefer in jewelry not watches. The mark up is ridiculously high
I don't doubt that.

I searched all the high end jewelery forums when i bought my wife's engagement ring. I found the most popular low margin online diamond seller and bought his highest quality diamond for her ring. I took it loose and went to a bunch of really nice jewelry stores looking for an equivalently graded/cut diamond. They were all 5 to 6 times the price. It was pretty eye opening.

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Post by Panerai7 » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:12 pm

JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:42 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:37 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:05 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:01 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:56 am
I was pretty surprised when you gave up the Ti PAM. That watch just screamed "Art".
I'll be okay. I gotta get ready for Pepsi and don't want to put any more money into this silly hobby. Even though no one knows when it's going to be my turn. My AD told me flat out first 3-5 will go to their "high-rollers" who spent 100K++ with them in Jewelry.
I wish there were enough new watches that didn't suck so I could become an AD "high roller", instead of subjecting myself to forum "dealers" while hunting down long discontinued references.
They prefer in jewelry not watches. The mark up is ridiculously high
I don't doubt that.

I searched all the high end jewelery forums when i bought my wife's engagement ring. I found the most popular low margin online diamond seller and bought his highest quality diamond for her ring. I took it loose and went to a bunch of really nice jewelry stores looking for an equivalently graded/cut diamond. They were all 5 to 6 times the price. It was pretty eye opening.
Yep 500-600% mark up is common.
A NASCAR driver or Carolina Panther walks in and buys a 100K worth of chachkis and asks if they have a GMT Pepsi, we sure do :)

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Post by dnslater » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:11 pm

Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:07 am

2500 is a great watch. But Tudor/Rolex 70-hr in-house mov't for that kinda money is a deal of the century.
This. Loved my PO, but the 2500 Coax movement gave me fits. Multiple times back to Nesbits before I sold it. It was the C movement but it had the intermediate escape wheel upgrade, and still stopped at year 4 and then a year after the service.

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Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:23 pm

dnslater wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:11 pm
Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:07 am

2500 is a great watch. But Tudor/Rolex 70-hr in-house mov't for that kinda money is a deal of the century.
This. Loved my PO, but the 2500 Coax movement gave me fits. Multiple times back to Nesbits before I sold it. It was the C movement but it had the intermediate escape wheel upgrade, and still stopped at year 4 and then a year after the service.
If mine gives me a single problem it would get serviced and sold immediately.

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Post by dnslater » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:07 am

Interesting photos showing size of BB58. Compares well to pre-ceramic subs.
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Post by dukerules » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:40 am

Wow. The BB58 looks incredible. That profile shot does it for me.

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Post by hoppyjr » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:29 am

Now I’m thinking dirty thoughts.....again. 114060 Sub + BB58 and out?

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Post by Panerai7 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:33 am

hoppyjr wrote:
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Now I’m thinking dirty thoughts.....again. 114060 Sub + BB58 and out?
I tried both on last week at AD
Ed, 58 is too small for us, it really is for an under 7" wrist. Which is great 'cause everyone said BBB is too this and that.
Also I loved GMT on my wrist, they shaved/chamfered the sides of the case kind of like Seiko does at the point of contact with the wrist. It looks less of a slab. Still has the lug holes in the wrong place though :tap:

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Post by hoppyjr » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:42 am

Panerai7 wrote:
hoppyjr wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:29 am
Now I’m thinking dirty thoughts.....again. 114060 Sub + BB58 and out?
I tried both on last week at AD
Ed, 58 is too small for us, it really is for an under 7" wrist. Which is great 'cause everyone said BBB is too this and that.
Also I loved GMT on my wrist, they shaved/chamfered the sides of the case kind of like Seiko does at the point of contact with the wrist. It looks less of a slab. Still has the lug holes in the wrong place though :tap:
Thanks Art. Maybe we will get lucky and see a revised standard sized Black Bay one day. Make it thinner and lose the goofy aluminum crown sleeve, then I’m back in the Tudor family.

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Post by Panerai7 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:48 am

Some less than ideal shots from the event

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Post by Panerai7 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:51 am

hoppyjr wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:42 am
Panerai7 wrote:
hoppyjr wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:29 am
Now I’m thinking dirty thoughts.....again. 114060 Sub + BB58 and out?
I tried both on last week at AD
Ed, 58 is too small for us, it really is for an under 7" wrist. Which is great 'cause everyone said BBB is too this and that.
Also I loved GMT on my wrist, they shaved/chamfered the sides of the case kind of like Seiko does at the point of contact with the wrist. It looks less of a slab. Still has the lug holes in the wrong place though :tap:
Thanks Art. Maybe we will get lucky and see a revised standard sized Black Bay one day. Make it thinner and lose the goofy aluminum crown sleeve, then I’m back in the Tudor family.
I'll come back for that one + drill the holes in the right spot between lugs, that watch is horrible with straps unless you make them fat at the lugs specifically for that watch and then those straps won't fit on any other watches

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Post by Ryeguy » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:21 am

I'm really torn between the GMT and the BB58.

I actually think the GMT offers a better value proposition due to the movement. I am thrilled they are offering a true traveler's dual time zone watch at (relatively) affordable pricing. The domed sapphire is nicely done and the date without the cyclops is as well integrated as a date can be. Combine this with solid 200m water resistance and I think you have about as optimal an adventure watch as you could hope for.

That BB58 certainly looks good though. I see this one being an iconic watch in 10 to 15 years.

I'll start poking my head into AD's to see which fits better.

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Post by Jeep99dad » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:55 am

The BB58 is too small even for me. So it’s a pass. GMT and 1926 white dial were my fave at the event.
The beveled lower edge of the GMT case helps to thin out the profile. I wasn’t as wow’d as I expected to be though.
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