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Biking: beginner tips?

Post by BBK357 » Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:17 pm

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You shouldn't be able to touch the ground with your ass on the seat.
have you seen ben's ass???? he can always touch the ground :gayumbrella:
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Post by BBK357 » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:32 pm

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CGSshorty wrote:Get the Kuat.
Do you know anything about expanding it to a 4 bike rack ?


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Post by TLgdeL » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:42 pm

BBK357 wrote:
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CGSshorty wrote:Get the Kuat.
Do you know anything about expanding it to a 4 bike rack ?


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Damn. Never mind. The 2 bike add on is $500.


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Price of a new rack lol.

I'm using a Thule Apex 4 bike rack. Its a tight squeeze with three adult sized bikes and my youngest's 24".

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Post by Selym » Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:54 pm

matt.wu wrote:
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You shouldn't be able to touch the ground with your ass on the seat.
With your hands or feet? :scratch:

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Post by matt.wu » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:36 pm

Selym wrote:
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You shouldn't be able to touch the ground with your ass on the seat.
With your hands or feet? :scratch:
Either is problematic!
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Post by BacoNoir » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:05 pm

CGSshorty wrote:Get the Kuat.

Yes, that’s a great price for it and you can add a 2 bike extension to make it a 4 bike rack.
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Post by BBK357 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:23 pm

Whoever gave the amazon link for the padded panties- thank you. Huge difference. Went 18 miles this morning and just some discomfort- no pain.

Took the ogre to a bike shop for a chain, water bottle bracket and getting an inch off the seat stem.

Will pick it up Thursday.


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Post by hoppyjr » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:02 am

BBK357 wrote:Whoever gave the amazon link for the padded panties- thank you. Huge difference. Went 18 miles this morning and just some discomfort- no pain.

Took the ogre to a bike shop for a chain, water bottle bracket and getting an inch off the seat stem.

Will pick it up Thursday.


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Post by hobbit712 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:11 am

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Whoever gave the amazon link for the padded panties- thank you. Huge difference. Went 18 miles this morning and just some discomfort- no pain.
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Post by Selym » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:22 am

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getting an inch off the seat stem.
What do you mean, lowering the seat one inch?

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getting an inch off the seat stem.
What do you mean, lowering the seat one inch?
So the seat is connected to a seat tube. To lower and raise it you unclamp or unscrew the collar and slide it up and down. Well my legs are just short enough that even when it slides all the way down the seat is still too tall for me. So they have to slide the seat tube out and saw some off. He said it’s pretty common and they do it when people buy a new bike and get fitted to it.


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Post by Selym » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:50 am

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getting an inch off the seat stem.
What do you mean, lowering the seat one inch?
So the seat is connected to a seat tube. To lower and raise it you unclamp or unscrew the collar and slide it up and down. Well my legs are just short enough that even when it slides all the way down the seat is still too tall for me. So they have to slide the seat tube out and saw some off. He said it’s pretty common and they do it when people buy a new bike and get fitted to it.


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Gotcha.

I guess the photo is deceiving and the bike frame is larger than it looks. I'm 5'9" with a 32" inseam, and I think I'd need to raise the seat, not lower it. :shrug:

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Post by BBK357 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:19 pm

Selym wrote:
BBK357 wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:54 am
Selym wrote:
BBK357 wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:23 pm
getting an inch off the seat stem.
What do you mean, lowering the seat one inch?
So the seat is connected to a seat tube. To lower and raise it you unclamp or unscrew the collar and slide it up and down. Well my legs are just short enough that even when it slides all the way down the seat is still too tall for me. So they have to slide the seat tube out and saw some off. He said it’s pretty common and they do it when people buy a new bike and get fitted to it.


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Gotcha.

I guess the photo is deceiving and the bike frame is larger than it looks. I'm 5'9" with a 32" inseam, and I think I'd need to raise the seat, not lower it. :shrug:

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I think it the pic. I’m about same size as you, maybe an inch taller. But the bars in the ogre are pretty darn low set. I’ll check it out tomorrow when I pick it up and see if they recommend the bars be adjusted.


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Post by matt.wu » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:23 pm

At 5' 9", you definitely shouldn't be cutting a seat post on that bike. It might just be a need to get familiar with a different riding position.

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Post by Selym » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:52 pm

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I’ll check it out tomorrow when I pick it up and see if they recommend the bars be adjusted.
Looks like those bars are as high as they go. In other words, the stem is as high on the fork steerer tube as it can go. You can get a different stem that will have the effect of raising the bars slightly.

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Post by Joeprez » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:54 pm

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At 5' 9", you definitely shouldn't be cutting a seat post on that bike. It might just be a need to get familiar with a different riding position.

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I would think so too. I'm almost 5'9" with a 30" inseam and my Trek MTB is a size medium or medium-large (will check tonight), but I've ridden a "large" Trek MTB and seat position is fine (no cutting needed), it is just too long for me (seat to handlebar distance).
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Post by Selym » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:59 pm

Joeprez wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:54 pm
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At 5' 9", you definitely shouldn't be cutting a seat post on that bike. It might just be a need to get familiar with a different riding position.

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I would think so too. I'm almost 5'9" with a 30" inseam and my Trek MTB is a size medium or medium-large (will check tonight), but I've ridden a "large" Trek MTB and seat position is fine (no cutting needed), it is just too long for me (seat to handlebar distance).
The current MD-size Ogre has a 31.3" standover height. That does seem kind of tall for a medium. Do Surly frames run big?

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Post by BBK357 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:42 pm

I don’t know. I’m 5’10 and I was totally racking my balls, falling from side to side and was worried about how to keep my balance when coming to a busy street. The bike trail I ride runs into a series of roads, some country and people don’t watch. Someone got killed at one of the roads last year.


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Post by matt.wu » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:44 pm

31.3" standover is definitely bigger than I'd expect from a medium. That'd definitely be touching my balls.

But even with a bike too big by standover standards, I'd expect I'd be able to adjust the seat so that I could ride it (it'd just be touchy when dismounting).
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Post by pbj204 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:01 pm



With a little iron crotch kung fu training any seat will be comfortable.

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Post by HapaHapa » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:41 pm

pbj204 wrote:
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With a little iron crotch kung fu training any seat will be comfortable.
Uh, that’s WTF raised two orders of magnitude. I’m glad my Sifu didn’t subscribe to that school of training.
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Post by justsellbrgs » Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:01 pm

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31.3" standover is definitely bigger than I'd expect from a medium. That'd definitely be touching my balls.

But even with a bike too big by standover standards, I'd expect I'd be able to adjust the seat so that I could ride it (it'd just be touchy when dismounting).
Surly runs slightly big -- and this is a two-niner (so bigger yet)....... I'm not sure what he's doing to slam his balls on the tube. In general MTB I'd want slightly smaller frame, road/gravel you can go slightly bigger.....
When Ben says he is trying to figure out how all these gears and levers work I'm wondering if he's 75 years old.
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Post by CGSshorty » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:13 pm

Ben, I think your issue might be that you are very stretched out. That’s a long stem and a pretty straight bar. I’d try a shorter stem and a bar with a little bit of sweep, like the Salsa Bend.
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Post by BBK357 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:53 pm

Ok picked the ogre up from the shop today, stopped but the trail on my way home did a couple miles of test run. It rides so much different than the trek. I can tell my strides are making the bike go further- I don’t know if it’s the gear difference or the size of the tires or both. But it seems like it’s way easier to make it go.
The shop cut the seat tube and it still feels pretty high but the owner had me get in and he said it looks perfect. The handle bars are very low set and he said ride it and see if I like it, if not he’d recommend a bent bar for comfort. Also got a water bottle cage and I put on the phone holder.
My trek has a sigma 509 speedometer computer.
I may have to get one for this as I tried to use the Bike GPS app and while I was going a constant speed it kept jumping up and down. Not very reliable .

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Post by hoppyjr » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:55 pm

Nice

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