2021 Ford Bronco Release - 7/13

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Post by dukerules » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:31 pm

Ok. I think I want a Badlands 4D. And an offroad camping trailer to replace the one we stupidly sold a couple of years ago.

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Post by streetracer101 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:35 pm

dukerules wrote:
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Ok. I think I want a Badlands 4D. And an offroad camping trailer to replace the one we stupidly sold a couple of years ago.
I've got a Turtleback Adventure Trail trailer I'm about to sell.

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Post by Panerai7 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:01 pm

If I were picking one I’d go with badlands just as it sits on 33 tires in the pic. 35 is overkill for a daily driver. I think it’s the sweet spot between basic and fully loaded

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Post by demer03 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:04 am

It’s cool and all, but I’m staying focused on the Gladiator next.
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Post by deepcdvr » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:18 am

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Post by HapaHapa » Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:55 am

deepcdvr wrote:
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I’m not a truck guy and I still want one.

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Post by deepcdvr » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:34 am

HapaHapa wrote:
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deepcdvr wrote:
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I’m not a truck guy and I still want one.
I know - it looks like Tonka Toy fun :lol:
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Post by spring-diver » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:00 am

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Post by CGSshorty » Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:01 pm

Pretty much on point, Shannon.
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Post by jswing » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:41 pm

Seppia wrote:It looks good, but I’m amazed by how these things are advertised VS how they will actually be used.
You don't scale mountains to get to the grocery store?

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Post by hoppyjr » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:49 pm

Bronco Raptor = $70k + no doubt.

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Post by HapaHapa » Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:53 pm

jswing wrote:
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Seppia wrote:It looks good, but I’m amazed by how these things are advertised VS how they will actually be used.
You don't scale mountains to get to the grocery store?

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Post by CGSshorty » Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:40 pm

Florida is full of $100k Wranglers with ridiculous suspension articulation that will never get used.
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Post by bedlam » Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:45 pm

I never understood people putting oversized muddies on cars that never go off-road. They are noisy, increase fuel use, slow down your acceleration and increase your braking distance. People are mad.

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Post by HapaHapa » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:06 pm

bedlam wrote:
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I never understood people putting oversized muddies on cars that never go off-road. They are noisy, increase fuel use, slow down your acceleration and increase your braking distance. People are mad.
Muddies! I love Oz terminology.
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Post by demer03 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:32 am

CGSshorty wrote:
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Florida is full of $100k Wranglers with ridiculous suspension articulation that will never get used.
Yep. I was pissing some of those guys off because I was pulling them out with my twin stick '73 on Drummond Island at a Jeep Jamboree. Ran snow tires :)

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Post by Ryeguy » Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:57 am

Now that ‘73 Jeep is an off road vehicle. No one (or maybe just the incredibly wealthy or incredibly stupid) is taking a $50K plus vehicle off road to get all trail rashed.

I love the look of these new Broncos but I am worried about the longevity of the engines. Small displacement engines with turbo chargers to make big power just sounds like a recipe for early engine failure. Maybe on a light weight hot hatchback they work OK, but on a heavy weight 4X4 running 33 -35 inch tires? I’m just not sold on the idea.

I would’ve been much more comfortable with a non-turbo 4 liter V6 such as in the Tacoma or 4Runner. Even better would be a small displacement diesel.

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Post by Panerai7 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:11 am

Ryeguy wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:57 am
Now that ‘73 Jeep is an off road vehicle. No one (or maybe just the incredibly wealthy or incredibly stupid) is taking a $50K plus vehicle off road to get all trail rashed.

I love the look of these new Broncos but I am worried about the longevity of the engines. Small displacement engines with turbo chargers to make big power just sounds like a recipe for early engine failure. Maybe on a light weight hot hatchback they work OK, but on a heavy weight 4X4 running 33 -35 inch tires? I’m just not sold on the idea.

I would’ve been much more comfortable with a non-turbo 4 liter V6 such as in the Tacoma or 4Runner. Even better would be a small displacement diesel.
100% agreed. Unfortunately, thanks to government and EPA, the era of large displacement naturally aspirated engines is coming to an end. It’s pretty much a guarantee the next 4R and Landcruiser will be turbo charged smaller blocks

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Post by dnslater » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:21 am

Ryeguy wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:57 am
Now that ‘73 Jeep is an off road vehicle. No one (or maybe just the incredibly wealthy or incredibly stupid) is taking a $50K plus vehicle off road to get all trail rashed.

I love the look of these new Broncos but I am worried about the longevity of the engines. Small displacement engines with turbo chargers to make big power just sounds like a recipe for early engine failure. Maybe on a light weight hot hatchback they work OK, but on a heavy weight 4X4 running 33 -35 inch tires? I’m just not sold on the idea.

I would’ve been much more comfortable with a non-turbo 4 liter V6 such as in the Tacoma or 4Runner. Even better would be a small displacement diesel.
Diesels have been using turbos to make reliable power in heavy trucks for a long time. Also the F150 has been using the 2.7 Ecoboost for a number of years and it has like a 9000 lb towing capacity. The blocks are pretty stout and typically issues arise due to people over tuning them.

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Post by HapaHapa » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:22 am

dnslater wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:21 am
Ryeguy wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:57 am
Now that ‘73 Jeep is an off road vehicle. No one (or maybe just the incredibly wealthy or incredibly stupid) is taking a $50K plus vehicle off road to get all trail rashed.

I love the look of these new Broncos but I am worried about the longevity of the engines. Small displacement engines with turbo chargers to make big power just sounds like a recipe for early engine failure. Maybe on a light weight hot hatchback they work OK, but on a heavy weight 4X4 running 33 -35 inch tires? I’m just not sold on the idea.

I would’ve been much more comfortable with a non-turbo 4 liter V6 such as in the Tacoma or 4Runner. Even better would be a small displacement diesel.
Diesels have been using turbos to make reliable power in heavy trucks for a long time. Also the F150 has been using the 2.7 Ecoboost for a number of years and it has like a 9000 lb towing capacity. The blocks are pretty stout and typically issues arise due to people over tuning them.
I’m none too kind to the turbo 2.3L 4-cyl in my Acura RDX and no issues to date (I probably shouldn’t have said that). I agree that more weight and bigger tires are a little different, but as a daily driver I don’t see a difference using the turbocharged smaller engine. The power these engines are delivering isn’t out of line with current norm and you are also pairing it with a 7 or 10 speed transmission. Probably also requires Mobil 1 synthetic and premium gas.
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Post by jswing » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:29 am

HapaHapa wrote:
dnslater wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:21 am
Ryeguy wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:57 am
Now that ‘73 Jeep is an off road vehicle. No one (or maybe just the incredibly wealthy or incredibly stupid) is taking a $50K plus vehicle off road to get all trail rashed.

I love the look of these new Broncos but I am worried about the longevity of the engines. Small displacement engines with turbo chargers to make big power just sounds like a recipe for early engine failure. Maybe on a light weight hot hatchback they work OK, but on a heavy weight 4X4 running 33 -35 inch tires? I’m just not sold on the idea.

I would’ve been much more comfortable with a non-turbo 4 liter V6 such as in the Tacoma or 4Runner. Even better would be a small displacement diesel.
Diesels have been using turbos to make reliable power in heavy trucks for a long time. Also the F150 has been using the 2.7 Ecoboost for a number of years and it has like a 9000 lb towing capacity. The blocks are pretty stout and typically issues arise due to people over tuning them.
I’m none too kind to the turbo 2.3L 4-cyl in my Acura RDX and no issues to date (I probably shouldn’t have said that). I agree that more weight and bigger tires are a little different, but as a daily driver I don’t see a difference using the turbocharged smaller engine. The power these engines are delivering isn’t out of line with current norm and you are also pairing it with a 7 or 10 speed transmission. Probably also requires Mobil 1 synthetic and premium gas.
I have the turbo 2.3 ecoboost/10 speed in my Ranger and it doesn't require premium. I haven't done the first oil change yet but I assume it'll be synthetic.

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