Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

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Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

Post by JonSnow » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:52 am

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture ... ocharging/

I guess the past 50 years of motorsport history still haven't taught the fancy boys in Maranello much.

"Immediate, predictable response is a requirement in any driver's car. " Good turbo cars are very predictable, but I can see how they'd be problematic for the kind of yuppies who drive Ferrari's (see Ferrari Challenge for details https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by7wraE8eug).

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Post by marchone » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:00 am

I read that yesterday. It'll be interesting to see what Ferrari are forced to do.
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Re: Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:04 am

A properly sized turbo on a decent displacement engine is practically linear in throttle response. A huge turbo on a small displacement engine is going to be lethargic at low RPMs, unless there's some computer controlled trickery.

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Re: Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

Post by Torrid » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:15 am

Ferraris shouldn't have turbos. It's blasphemy. Stupid government mpg regs.

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Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:17 am

Torrid wrote:Ferraris shouldn't have turbos. It's blasphemy. Stupid government mpg regs.
The F40 and 288GTO disagree!

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Re: Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

Post by Torrid » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:42 am

You do have a point. The new California T sounds a bit too muted to me though. The F40 for sure sounds amazing. The regular California didn't wow me either though. I mean it was great driving a Ferrari, but it was hard to follow up just sitting in and revving the 458 Italia.

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Re: Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:44 am

Torrid wrote:You do have a point. The new California T sounds a bit too muted to me though. The F40 for sure sounds amazing. The regular California didn't wow me either though. I mean it was great driving a Ferrari, but it was hard to follow up just sitting in and revving the 458 Italia.
I don't have car money, or even garage space for anything fun -my "fun car" is sitting in storage in California - so I'm totally out of the car loop.

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Re: Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

Post by Torrid » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:14 am

I don't technically even have a fun car by those standards anymore. When we have toy money many years down the road, my wife wants an XJS convertible and I've been thinking about an older 911. LWB Jaguar probably doesn't scream car guy like the rest of the vehicles I've owned, but I have always loved the round headlamp XJs and I had to have one.

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Re: Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

Post by JonSnow » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:16 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
Torrid wrote:Ferraris shouldn't have turbos. It's blasphemy. Stupid government mpg regs.
The F40 and 288GTO disagree!
288GTO would be the only Ferrari I wouldn't be embarrassed to be seen in built since 1965.

Adding a second turbo seems to have some positive effects too;)

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Re: Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

Post by FlyPenFly » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:18 am

If everything else is equal, I'd much rather have a naturally aspirated car. I love turbos and S/C don't get me wrong but there is a beautiful responsive amazingness to a high revving NA engine singing at high RPMs.

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Re: Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

Post by marchone » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:25 am

You're all gonna be plugging into a Tesla station soon. They're building the network. The Euro boys will buy usage contracts.
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Post by Torrid » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:39 am

I don't have a problem with electric cars for a daily driver once the support is there. I honestly love the Tesla Model S.

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Re: Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

Post by marchone » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:42 am

That car is freaking fast.
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Re: Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:45 am

Instant, and probably constant, torque as well.

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Re: Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

Post by marchone » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:47 am

It's simply a superior power delivery to internal combustion engines.
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Re: Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

Post by CesarG » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:47 am

Webers

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The rest is too fancy.

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Re: Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

Post by Pasquale » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:44 pm

Don't ever disrespect Ferrari again!
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Re: Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

Post by cdnwatchguy » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:14 pm

CesarG wrote:Webers

Image

The rest is too fancy.
Looks sexy but you would spend the equivalent or a Rolex every year keeping those babies in tune.
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Re: Ferrari still doesn't understand how turbos work

Post by CesarG » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:29 pm

cdnwatchguy wrote:
CesarG wrote:Webers

The rest is too fancy.
Looks sexy but you would spend the equivalent or a Rolex every year keeping those babies in tune.
Probably more.

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