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How about this Garmin BS

Post by TIMUR » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:38 am

Down since Thursday. I hear the ransom is $10M
Thank goodness for the non-smart watches, right??

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Post by aikiman44 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:19 am

These guys have some pretty funny responses.
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Re: How about this Garmin BS

Post by jeckyll » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:08 am

i'm trying to see if my InReach can still send messages. I'm assuming not. If so, that's pretty significant for people who have come to rely on the emergency capabilities ...
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Post by aikiman44 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:12 am

I didn’t know this but they are big in a aviation and maritime business.
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Re: How about this Garmin BS

Post by aikiman44 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:14 am

abuemily wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:09 am
I was confused at first, but:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/garmin-se ... re-attack/
Thanks, I just subscribed to them.
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Re: How about this Garmin BS

Post by jeckyll » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:15 am

OK, InReach still works...
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Re: How about this Garmin BS

Post by TIMUR » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:47 am

details are fuzzy, but it’s also impacting their aviation/gps/faa stuff. That’s got to be the real bitch

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Post by HapaHapa » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:13 am

aikiman44 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:19 am
These guys have some pretty funny responses.

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I like this version better. It’s simpler and better stated.
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Post by hoppyjr » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:32 am

jeckyll wrote:OK, InReach still works...
I suspect it’s only server based stuff that is locked up, isn’t the in-reach just a satellite communicator?

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Re: How about this Garmin BS

Post by TIMUR » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:08 am

Never know. If they don’t have proper segmentation and IPS/IDS, they could be royally fucked. Satcom can be taken out quite easily, if there is an unprotected vector.

I wonder who hosts their shit? Gotta be one of the big boys...AWS, etc. can’t wait to see factual details of what happened. Could have huge implications for the future. Imagine if you have a hearing aid or a pacer with BLE connectivity. This could totally backdoor in

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Post by deepcdvr » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:25 pm

I have three Garmin watches and a bunch of Garmin stuff at work we use for various navigation requirements. This could be a nightmare for the military if it doesn’t get cleaned up soon.
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Post by Ryeguy » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:56 pm

deepcdvr wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:25 pm
I have three Garmin watches and a bunch of Garmin stuff at work we use for various navigation requirements. This could be a nightmare for the military if it doesn’t get cleaned up soon.
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Ah, come on! Go old school like Boy Scouts :lol:

Yeah, this ransomware crap is all fun and games until it impacts the safety of mariners, pilots, etc.

I’ve got charts, a compass, a protractor, divider, and parallel ruler, but I really would not want to have to rely on those alone for any great trip.

When did this happen, btw? My Garmin chart plotter worked fine yesterday.
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Re: How about this Garmin BS

Post by streetracer101 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:12 pm

My InReach seems to be working fine. Interesting development.

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Post by Captdave » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:27 pm

Ryeguy wrote:
deepcdvr wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:25 pm
I have three Garmin watches and a bunch of Garmin stuff at work we use for various navigation requirements. This could be a nightmare for the military if it doesn’t get cleaned up soon.
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Ah, come on! Go old school like Boy Scouts :lol:

Yeah, this ransomware crap is all fun and games until it impacts the safety of mariners, pilots, etc.

I’ve got charts, a compass, a protractor, divider, and parallel ruler, but I really would not want to have to rely on those alone for any great trip.

When did this happen, btw? My Garmin chart plotter worked fine yesterday.
A chart, dividers and a weems plotter. Then radar VRM’s and EBL’s and you can go anywhere. I don’t use garmin at work but this could have a big impact.


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Re: How about this Garmin BS

Post by Ryeguy » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:00 am

Captdave wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:27 pm
Ryeguy wrote:
deepcdvr wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:25 pm
I have three Garmin watches and a bunch of Garmin stuff at work we use for various navigation requirements. This could be a nightmare for the military if it doesn’t get cleaned up soon.
135EA96B-D038-43FD-9D93-8E39C768970B.jpeg

Ah, come on! Go old school like Boy Scouts :lol:

Yeah, this ransomware crap is all fun and games until it impacts the safety of mariners, pilots, etc.

I’ve got charts, a compass, a protractor, divider, and parallel ruler, but I really would not want to have to rely on those alone for any great trip.

When did this happen, btw? My Garmin chart plotter worked fine yesterday.
A chart, dividers and a weems plotter. Then radar VRM’s and EBL’s and you can go anywhere. I don’t use garmin at work but this could have a big impact.


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I always think of those tools as for maritime navigation, but I was surprised to realize how commonly they were used in commercial aviation until relatively recently.

I was at the Pearl Harbor Aviation Museum a while back with my son (the museum is on Ford Island. If you get the chance, it is a great place to spend an afternoon) and got to talking with the curator for their C-47 / DC-3.

The curator was mentioning that in the '40's and '50's all flights to Hawaii were done overnight so the flight navigator could use the stars for navigation (that is what that little domed window on the top of those vintage aircraft is for - the window is called an "astrodome"). It took about 8 hours to fly from CA to HA and the distance (2,600 miles) was pretty close to the limit for those aircraft, so there wasn't much room for navigation error.

It is kind of amazing to realize that we are only about 1 generation removed from relying on sextants and protractors for navigation.
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Re: How about this Garmin BS

Post by hidden by leaves » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:45 am

So should I *not* be using my watch or apps? I admit I didn't read the article but it's not clear if there is risk to personal information/devices (including phones running Garmin apps). Thx.


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Re: How about this Garmin BS

Post by dnslater » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:54 am

Ryeguy wrote:
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It is kind of amazing to realize that we are only about 1 generation removed from relying on sextants and protractors for navigation.
Would definitely be interesting to see how the past 100 years will be viewed in the "big scheme of humankind" a thousand years from now.... assuming we don't blow ourselves up before then. So much of our day to day technology evolved slowly for thousands of years until the 20th century when everything changed rapidly due to the computer age.

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Post by AtomicTom » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:31 am

Totally Tim ! :) :thumbsup:

Honestly hadn't even heard about this by the way. So thanks so much !!! :salute:

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Re: How about this Garmin BS

Post by Jiman » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:27 pm

Tim, is that a Tactix Delta Solar by chance? If so, how’s the clarity of the Power Sapphire glass?

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Re: How about this Garmin BS

Post by TIMUR » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:38 am

Jiman wrote:
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Tim, is that a Tactix Delta Solar by chance? If so, how’s the clarity of the Power Sapphire glass?
No sir. Regular tactix delta. Sorry ...

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Re: How about this Garmin BS

Post by Jiman » Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:54 pm

Thanks Tim

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