Global slow down...

[bedlam]

So currently 270,069 have caught the virus and out of those, 101,874 cases have concluded, 90,603 have recovered and 11,271 have sadly died. The rest are still sick so shouldn't be counted in mortality rate.

The challenge with these numbers is we really don't know what the number should be for the denominator. 270k are the confirmed positive cases......but what is the real number of infected people? We probably won't know that until this is long over and everyone globally can eventually be tested for antibodies.

It's safe to say the number of infected is much more than the 270K confirmed and that will drop the death rate substantially.

^^ Winner ^^

I'll tell my ICU colleagues they can stop feeling overwelmed by the number of COVID patients they are treating.

[hoppyjr]

We’re all victims of the 24 hour news cycle and its hyperbole. But no mention of the one outlet with ‘commentators’ saying Corona virus is a hoax? No one’s upset about the public health ramifications of this? No one’s upset over this agenda of conspiracy theories?

Not to mention the complete dishonesty and ineptness of our own federal government’s handling of this?

Anyone remember the professional, competent and successful way our government handled the Ebola breakout? When we had agencies and personnel, including epidemiologists and infectious disease specialists in place to handle pandemics? Before these agencies and personnel were fired?

Aren’t you guys, regardless of political persuasion, outraged at this?

Holy crap are we screwed!

It’s now probably safe to say the “it’s not so bad” and the “it’s the media with an agenda” screams did not age well.

In true doublethink fashion, instead of taking responsibility, the same people that downplayed this huge heath issue irresponsibly are now saying everybody needs to move on to fixing things and pretend nothing happened.

Or they still feel the same but are tired of arguing about this shit on watch forum.

[caesarmascetti]

So currently 270,069 have caught the virus and out of those, 101,874 cases have concluded, 90,603 have recovered and 11,271 have sadly died. The rest are still sick so shouldn't be counted in mortality rate.

The challenge with these numbers is we really don't know what the number should be for the denominator. 270k are the confirmed positive cases......but what is the real number of infected people? We probably won't know that until this is long over and everyone globally can eventually be tested for antibodies.

It's safe to say the number of infected is much more than the 270K confirmed and that will drop the death rate substantially.

In the US, the numbers are as follows 19,624 confirmed, 260 deaths for a death rate of 1.3%, and this death rate will go down as more cases are confirmed

[Ryeguy]

The challenges I see here in the US are twofold.

First, we reportedly are facing an anticipated shortage of personal protective gear in our hospitals. My sister is a NP and she is concerned for her hospital, and I am in a fairly rural location. I can only assume the situation in city hospitals is much worse.

Second, we seem to have a generation of 20 year olds who are absolute idiots and refusing to respect / follow CDC guidance. These dumbasses will not only clog the healthcare system with sick kids, they will also likely go home to their parents and carry this virus home.

[CGSshorty]

The challenges I see here in the US are twofold.

First, we reportedly are facing an anticipated shortage of personal protective gear in our hospitals. My sister is a NP and she is concerned for her hospital, and I am in a fairly rural location. I can only assume the situation in city hospitals is much worse.

Second, we seem to have a generation of 20 year olds who are absolute idiots and refusing to respect / follow CDC guidance. These dumbasses will not only clog the healthcare system with sick kids, they will also likely go home to their parents and carry this virus home.

It’s not just the kids. A lot of the people who were packing the beaches here last week were adults who should have known better. There were also bars/restaurants full of adults all over the place. Now everything is closed.

[Ryeguy]

The challenges I see here in the US are twofold.

First, we reportedly are facing an anticipated shortage of personal protective gear in our hospitals. My sister is a NP and she is concerned for her hospital, and I am in a fairly rural location. I can only assume the situation in city hospitals is much worse.

Second, we seem to have a generation of 20 year olds who are absolute idiots and refusing to respect / follow CDC guidance. These dumbasses will not only clog the healthcare system with sick kids, they will also likely go home to their parents and carry this virus home.

It’s not just the kids. A lot of the people who were packing the beaches here last week were adults who should have known better. There were also bars/restaurants full of adults all over the place. Now everything is closed.

This is the behavior I just can’t wrap my brain around.

I really think we could blunt the impact of this thing on our healthcare systems if people just hung out at home for a little while.

My nephew (recent UT graduate living in Nashville) just had to kick a bunch of spring break kids out of his apartment that his roommates had invited over. Now they find out one of those visiting kids has tested positive for the virus.

Even if someone thinks this bug is just another flu (and I think we all agree it isn’t), just imagine an entire flu season’s worth of patients trying to seek healthcare during the same week. This is what we are trying to avoid.

[streetracer101]

The challenges I see here in the US are twofold.

First, we reportedly are facing an anticipated shortage of personal protective gear in our hospitals. My sister is a NP and she is concerned for her hospital, and I am in a fairly rural location. I can only assume the situation in city hospitals is much worse.

Second, we seem to have a generation of 20 year olds who are absolute idiots and refusing to respect / follow CDC guidance. These dumbasses will not only clog the healthcare system with sick kids, they will also likely go home to their parents and carry this virus home.

It’s not just the kids. A lot of the people who were packing the beaches here last week were adults who should have known better. There were also bars/restaurants full of adults all over the place. Now everything is closed.

There are a lot of really stupid people out there. My mom is attending a wedding in SC today. It wasn't cancelled because "too much money spent already". She lives in an evangelical area, so I imagine they'll just blame it on God's will if multiple people get sick/die.

The local, state and federal governments need to step in and force people into compliance when they cannot follow basic CDC guidelines. The fact that several states haven't been smart enough to enforce these guidelines with lockdowns is alarming.

I personally don't care much about international death rates...too many variable that may not apply here. We, like Italy, have an aging population and one the highest rates of diabetes in the world (most of any developed country), rendering much of our population more susceptible to death from this virus. Next week will be telling. If our healthcare system loses its ability to keep up, we could see the domestic death rates spike dramatically. It is already happening in NY. We are now in the upward swing of the exponential growth curve we'd been warned about. I worry it's about to get ugly.

[Henryj]

The challenges I see here in the US are twofold.

First, we reportedly are facing an anticipated shortage of personal protective gear in our hospitals. My sister is a NP and she is concerned for her hospital, and I am in a fairly rural location. I can only assume the situation in city hospitals is much worse.

Second, we seem to have a generation of 20 year olds who are absolute idiots and refusing to respect / follow CDC guidance. These dumbasses will not only clog the healthcare system with sick kids, they will also likely go home to their parents and carry this virus home.

It’s not just the kids. A lot of the people who were packing the beaches here last week were adults who should have known better. There were also bars/restaurants full of adults all over the place. Now everything is closed.

There are a lot of really stupid people out there. My mom is attending a wedding in SC today. It wasn't cancelled because "too much money spent already". She lives in an evangelical area, so I imagine they'll just blame it on God's will if multiple people get sick/die.

The local, state and federal governments need to step in and force people into compliance when they cannot follow basic CDC guidelines. The fact that several states haven't been smart enough to enforce these guidelines with lockdowns is alarming.

I personally don't care much about international death rates...too many variable that may not apply here. We, like Italy, have an aging population and one the highest rates of diabetes in the world (most of any developed country), rendering much of our population more susceptible to death from this virus. Next week will be telling. If our healthcare system loses its ability to keep up, we could see the domestic death rates spike dramatically. It is already happening in NY. We are now in the upward swing of the exponential growth curve we'd been warned about. I worry it's about to get ugly.

I just watched Idiocracy again. Not so funny this time around.

(From Wikipedia)

World population 1940 - 2.34 billion
US population 1940 (the WW2 generation) - 132 million

World population 2020 - 7.64 billion
US population 2020 - 330 million

[caesarmascetti]

The challenges I see here in the US are twofold.

First, we reportedly are facing an anticipated shortage of personal protective gear in our hospitals. My sister is a NP and she is concerned for her hospital, and I am in a fairly rural location. I can only assume the situation in city hospitals is much worse.

Second, we seem to have a generation of 20 year olds who are absolute idiots and refusing to respect / follow CDC guidance. These dumbasses will not only clog the healthcare system with sick kids, they will also likely go home to their parents and carry this virus home.

It’s not just the kids. A lot of the people who were packing the beaches here last week were adults who should have known better. There were also bars/restaurants full of adults all over the place. Now everything is closed.

There are a lot of really stupid people out there. My mom is attending a wedding in SC today. It wasn't cancelled because "too much money spent already". She lives in an evangelical area, so I imagine they'll just blame it on God's will if multiple people get sick/die.

The local, state and federal governments need to step in and force people into compliance when they cannot follow basic CDC guidelines. The fact that several states haven't been smart enough to enforce these guidelines with lockdowns is alarming.

I personally don't care much about international death rates...too many variable that may not apply here. We, like Italy, have an aging population and one the highest rates of diabetes in the world (most of any developed country), rendering much of our population more susceptible to death from this virus. Next week will be telling. If our healthcare system loses its ability to keep up, we could see the domestic death rates spike dramatically. It is already happening in NY. We are now in the upward swing of the exponential growth curve we'd been warned about. I worry it's about to get ugly.

Median age in the USA is 38 years old, Italy is over 45. So the median age in the USA is much younger. The overall population density in Italy (539/sq mile) is also much greater especially in the north vs the overall USA (87/sq mile). Smoking is also much more prevalent in Italy than the US. Also taking a cross section of 500 deaths in Italy it was found the average age was 80, and that 99 percent had at least 1 preexisting condition and many had up to 3. So comparing Italy to the US is really a flawed comparison on many levels

[Ryeguy]

I’m guessing it’ll also be different here in the US by region. NYC will certainly be hard hit simply due to the population density. My entire state currently has 55 confirmed cases and only 2 hospitalized patients. We have so far had no deaths.

While I’m certain these numbers will go up in the coming weeks, doing the basic precautions will keep it manageable.

[JDC222]

The challenges I see here in the US are twofold.

First, we reportedly are facing an anticipated shortage of personal protective gear in our hospitals. My sister is a NP and she is concerned for her hospital, and I am in a fairly rural location. I can only assume the situation in city hospitals is much worse.

Second, we seem to have a generation of 20 year olds who are absolute idiots and refusing to respect / follow CDC guidance. These dumbasses will not only clog the healthcare system with sick kids, they will also likely go home to their parents and carry this virus home.

It’s not just the kids. A lot of the people who were packing the beaches here last week were adults who should have known better. There were also bars/restaurants full of adults all over the place. Now everything is closed.

There are a lot of really stupid people out there. My mom is attending a wedding in SC today. It wasn't cancelled because "too much money spent already". She lives in an evangelical area, so I imagine they'll just blame it on God's will if multiple people get sick/die.

The local, state and federal governments need to step in and force people into compliance when they cannot follow basic CDC guidelines. The fact that several states haven't been smart enough to enforce these guidelines with lockdowns is alarming.

I personally don't care much about international death rates...too many variable that may not apply here. We, like Italy, have an aging population and one the highest rates of diabetes in the world (most of any developed country), rendering much of our population more susceptible to death from this virus. Next week will be telling. If our healthcare system loses its ability to keep up, we could see the domestic death rates spike dramatically. It is already happening in NY. We are now in the upward swing of the exponential growth curve we'd been warned about. I worry it's about to get ugly.

Median age in the USA is 38 years old, Italy is over 45. So the median age in the USA is much younger. The overall population density in Italy (539/sq mile) is also much greater especially in the north vs the overall USA (87/sq mile). Smoking is also much more prevalent in Italy than the US. Also taking a cross section of 500 deaths in Italy it was found the average age was 80, and that 99 percent had at least 1 preexisting condition and many had up to 3. So comparing Italy to the US is really a flawed comparison on many levels

In Italy and many other countries in Europe, the people are very "social". People gather in groups, at pubs and cafes, everyday on the way home from work, in the evening etc etc. Also greetings, the cheek "kiss, kiss, kiss" all the time.

[streetracer101]

The challenges I see here in the US are twofold.

First, we reportedly are facing an anticipated shortage of personal protective gear in our hospitals. My sister is a NP and she is concerned for her hospital, and I am in a fairly rural location. I can only assume the situation in city hospitals is much worse.

Second, we seem to have a generation of 20 year olds who are absolute idiots and refusing to respect / follow CDC guidance. These dumbasses will not only clog the healthcare system with sick kids, they will also likely go home to their parents and carry this virus home.

It’s not just the kids. A lot of the people who were packing the beaches here last week were adults who should have known better. There were also bars/restaurants full of adults all over the place. Now everything is closed.

There are a lot of really stupid people out there. My mom is attending a wedding in SC today. It wasn't cancelled because "too much money spent already". She lives in an evangelical area, so I imagine they'll just blame it on God's will if multiple people get sick/die.

The local, state and federal governments need to step in and force people into compliance when they cannot follow basic CDC guidelines. The fact that several states haven't been smart enough to enforce these guidelines with lockdowns is alarming.

I personally don't care much about international death rates...too many variable that may not apply here. We, like Italy, have an aging population and one the highest rates of diabetes in the world (most of any developed country), rendering much of our population more susceptible to death from this virus. Next week will be telling. If our healthcare system loses its ability to keep up, we could see the domestic death rates spike dramatically. It is already happening in NY. We are now in the upward swing of the exponential growth curve we'd been warned about. I worry it's about to get ugly.

Median age in the USA is 38 years old, Italy is over 45. So the median age in the USA is much younger. The overall population density in Italy (539/sq mile) is also much greater especially in the north vs the overall USA (87/sq mile). Smoking is also much more prevalent in Italy than the US. Also taking a cross section of 500 deaths in Italy it was found the average age was 80, and that 99 percent had at least 1 preexisting condition and many had up to 3. So comparing Italy to the US is really a flawed comparison on many levels

There was no direct comparison implied.

Population density in the US will vary greatly via geographic region. Manhattan has a population density 3 x's that of Bergamo, Italy. Like Bergamo, Manhattan is one of the hardest hit areas domestically at this present time.

9.4% of America has DM, so just factoring in that one variable, nearly 10% of our population is immunocompromised. That is compared with 5.4% of Italians with DM.

Italy has 4.2 physicians per 1,000 people. The US has 2.3 physicians per 1,000, so overall access to healthcare its significantly worse in in the US.

Italy has 3.2 hospital beds per 1000 people v US with 2.8 beds per 1000 limiting our capability to respond to more aggressive cases of COVID.

COPD rate in Italy is 2.83% of the population above 18 yrs old. It is around 5.9% in the US. COPD rate has better predictive value for mortality v tobacco use rate.

Anyone can cherry pick stats to bolster their argument. We do have more vents in the US than Italy, but that doesn't mean that we'll have enough in each of the hardest hit communities. It also assumes we have enough people trained to operate them. Many of those vents are in storage for a domestic emergency such as this.

Point is, certain parts of this country are going to be heavily impacted. I imagine more populated areas of the US will see mortality rates well above 1-2%, and certain high risk groups in the US will fair much worse. As others have said, trying to predict the outcome of this thing is next to impossible. This is an event that'll be studied by academics for many years to come.

[HapaHapa]

Regarding people infecting other people, I had to rat out a sick (with a cold) coworker yesterday so he would leave the office and work from home. We don’t need to all get colds too.

[JDC222]

Regarding people infecting other people, I had to rat out a sick (with a cold) coworker yesterday so he would leave the office and work from home. We don’t need to all get colds too.

Yes, that is ignorant!

[Captdave]

I think the interview went very well. I was properly dressed (but no socks or shoes). I cleared everyone off the WiFi and there were no connectivity issues. We discussed my background some, then went into structured questions. It was all a positive feeling time, no awkward pauses, or real stumper questions. What I didn’t like about it was the time factor, in a face to face interview you have typically a few hours to make a human connection and get a feel for each other. This ran just under an hour, and felt a bit artificial.

Still, i think I did ok, got a few appropriate smiles out of the interviewers. Got the standard close “We have a couple other candidates to interview next week.” I’ll keep you guys posted, the support from here has been humbling. Thank you all so much.

Congratulations!

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[toxicavenger]

I just watched Idiocracy again. Not so funny this time around.

I love that movie.

[deepcdvr]

I think the interview went very well. I was properly dressed (but no socks or shoes). I cleared everyone off the WiFi and there were no connectivity issues. We discussed my background some, then went into structured questions. It was all a positive feeling time, no awkward pauses, or real stumper questions. What I didn’t like about it was the time factor, in a face to face interview you have typically a few hours to make a human connection and get a feel for each other. This ran just under an hour, and felt a bit artificial.

Still, i think I did ok, got a few appropriate smiles out of the interviewers. Got the standard close “We have a couple other candidates to interview next week.” I’ll keep you guys posted, the support from here has been humbling. Thank you all so much.

They always say they have other candidates

Hope you crushed it brother - good luck!

[deepcdvr]

US population 2020 - 330 million

US population 2020.5 - 329 million

Sorry, too soon?

[hoppyjr]

I just watched Idiocracy again. Not so funny this time around.

I love that movie.

Best. Movie. Ever.

Welcome to Costco, I love you.

I need me some Starbucks!

[sierra11b]

So currently 270,069 have caught the virus and out of those, 101,874 cases have concluded, 90,603 have recovered and 11,271 have sadly died. The rest are still sick so shouldn't be counted in mortality rate.

The challenge with these numbers is we really don't know what the number should be for the denominator. 270k are the confirmed positive cases......but what is the real number of infected people? We probably won't know that until this is long over and everyone globally can eventually be tested for antibodies.

It's safe to say the number of infected is much more than the 270K confirmed and that will drop the death rate substantially.

^^ Winner ^^

I'll tell my ICU colleagues they can stop feeling overwelmed by the number of COVID patients they are treating.

I wouldn’t go that far.

But could be a good time to separate the men from the the binaries, or whatever you call them. A lot of people simply cannot hack trying times and buckle under pressure. I wish you and them the best of luck.

[59yukon01]

[bedlam]

The challenges I see here in the US are twofold.

First, we reportedly are facing an anticipated shortage of personal protective gear in our hospitals. My sister is a NP and she is concerned for her hospital, and I am in a fairly rural location. I can only assume the situation in city hospitals is much worse.

Second, we seem to have a generation of 20 year olds who are absolute idiots and refusing to respect / follow CDC guidance. These dumbasses will not only clog the healthcare system with sick kids, they will also likely go home to their parents and carry this virus home.

It’s not just the kids. A lot of the people who were packing the beaches here last week were adults who should have known better. There were also bars/restaurants full of adults all over the place. Now everything is closed.

This is the behavior I just can’t wrap my brain around...

The benefits of "we, not me" are not understood or valued. You can't encourage libertarian/individualistic tendencies in people over a lifetime and then expect them all to be able to turn it off instantly. In fact emphasising the we is painted as some kind of 'socialist' slippery slope.

[Ryeguy]

The challenges I see here in the US are twofold.

First, we reportedly are facing an anticipated shortage of personal protective gear in our hospitals. My sister is a NP and she is concerned for her hospital, and I am in a fairly rural location. I can only assume the situation in city hospitals is much worse.

Second, we seem to have a generation of 20 year olds who are absolute idiots and refusing to respect / follow CDC guidance. These dumbasses will not only clog the healthcare system with sick kids, they will also likely go home to their parents and carry this virus home.

It’s not just the kids. A lot of the people who were packing the beaches here last week were adults who should have known better. There were also bars/restaurants full of adults all over the place. Now everything is closed.

This is the behavior I just can’t wrap my brain around...

The benefits of "we, not me" are not understood or valued. You can't encourage libertarian/individualistic tendencies in people over a lifetime and then expect them all to be able to turn it off instantly. In fact emphasising the we is painted as some kind of 'socialist' slippery slope.

Interesting perspective except the irresponsible and reckless behavior is being predominantly reported as being done by youths and young adults. They seem to view this as only an older person’s virus (hence the “boomer remover” hashtag floating around social media). This is the demographic that typically tends to lean more towards the liberal end of the spectrum.

The cynical part of me says these people lean more liberal only when the policies proposed benefit them (student loan forgiveness, etc.), but immediately switch to libertarian/individualistic values as soon as a sacrifice is asked (i.e. give up their Spring Break holiday).

Unfortunately, the spirit of our father’s and grandfather’s “Greatest Generation” seems lost on these people.

[bedlam]

This is the behavior I just can’t wrap my brain around...

The benefits of "we, not me" are not understood or valued. You can't encourage libertarian/individualistic tendencies in people over a lifetime and then expect them all to be able to turn it off instantly. In fact emphasising the we is painted as some kind of 'socialist' slippery slope.

Interesting perspective except the irresponsible and reckless behavior is being predominantly reported as being done by youths and young adults.

My point applies as much to young people as anyone else.

[River Rat]

What pisses me of the most about the way younger people are treating this like nothing like the way they were in Florida at the beach and some of the jokes there doing about older people. Read one they call this virus boomer remover does that not piss you off like they don’t care if us older people die off I guess parents did not do a great job raising there rotten kids. And you know it mite take the life’s of what’s left of the greatest generation from the WW2 era there the oldest and the one’s this virus will hurt the most.