Coming in 2020. Omega 007 Watch

[rockmastermike]

This is Grade 2 titanium, not Grade 5 - what’s the difference?
For the price I would hope Grade 2 is better than Grade 5 but I have no idea?!?

[logan2z]

This is Grade 2 titanium, not Grade 5 - what’s the difference?
For the price I would hope Grade 2 is better than Grade 5 but I have no idea?!?

Some good info here:

https://www.neonickel.com/technical-res ... ure-grade/

It seems like Grade 2 is often chosen for it's resistance to corrosion.

[bpax]

I like it, but I don't $9200 like it. Too damn $$$$.

[hoppyjr]

This is Grade 2 titanium, not Grade 5 - what’s the difference?
For the price I would hope Grade 2 is better than Grade 5 but I have no idea?!?

The older SMP titanium was Grade 2 and the excellent titanium PO 8500 and 8900 models were Grade 5. I’ve owned both. Grade 5 looks more like stainless, whereas Grade 2 is the color of what we expect from titanium (think Panerai).

I believe Grade 5 is harder to work with, but polishes up better and holds its finish longer than Grade 2.

Grade 2 will develop more “patina” with time and this is likely why it was chosen for a watch with a dial & bezel that are intended to age.

[1watchaholic]

I like it but the $9,200 price is off...

[matt.wu]

Which is better?

Good point for price comparison. Omega wins for me aesthetically, though if BP dropped the red on the markers, I might change my answer.

[demer03]

Hush, Matt

[logan2z]

Hush, Matt

+1

The scalloped bezel, peanut butter cup HEV and skeleton hands kill the Omega for me.

[matt.wu]

You're all wrong!

[JDC222]

Hush, Matt

+1

The scalloped bezel, peanut butter cup HEV and skeleton hands kill the Omega for me.

+2

[JBZ]

I'm with Wu on this one. Partly because I'm a shameless suck-up, but mostly because I think it's a really good looking watch. The price is ridiculous, but it's a Bond watch, and Omega always prices those higher than their normal stuff.

Now, if you want to discuss the ridiculous number of LE's Omega does, or the fact that METAS is just something they made up, those are whole other issues...

[Ryeguy]

I keep coming back to the quote Joe mentioned earlier from the Hodinkee article: "the dial and bezel are made from an Omega-specific form of lightweight anodized aluminum and Omega has confirmed that both elements will fade over time"

So, the dial and bezel insert are intentionally designed to fade.

Fade to what? Brown? Tan? Grey? Will they fade equally, or will the bezel insert fade more rapidly than the dial due to the AR coated sapphire?

How long before the fading begins? I can just envision people putting these things under UV lambs for days on end in order to achieve just the "right" patina.

It's all academic to me anyway. I'm far from this product's target demographic.

[Torrid]

It looks so wrong with aged lume. I’m still a fan of the style but if I was going to get another with skeleton hands it would be the original 2531.80 or a 2220.80.

[Joeprez]

Between the Omega and the BP, Omega for me too.


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[JBZ]

Hush, Matt

+1

The scalloped bezel, peanut butter cup HEV and skeleton hands kill the Omega for me.

Sure, but those design elements are featured on all of the Seamaster 300's (the peanut butter cup being a more recent addition).

[BBK357]

Red hashes on that BP are dumb


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[JP Chestnut]

And, if I wanted titanium, the Pelagos is way better value!

Yep...

+100

Omega should never be more expensive than Rolex of any similar model anyway. That’s why they’re all on Jomashop at 40% off

Do you also think that the Daytona is 2 or 3 times better than a Speedy?

Absolutely, and I own both.

[logan2z]

Hush, Matt

+1

The scalloped bezel, peanut butter cup HEV and skeleton hands kill the Omega for me.

Sure, but those design elements are featured on all of the Seamaster 300's (the peanut butter cup being a more recent addition).

Right, I'm not saying that the recent addition of these things have killed the watch for me, they always have. Which is why I prefer the BP.

[AtomicTom]

Honestly looks very nice imho, and really like it on that NATO !
It's definitely a little different overall, but it's fun seeing all of the
different incarnations of all of the James Bond watches. Next time
the watch could be very different, or maybe these will grow on
people. Either way, really appreciate the look sir. ..Thanks a lot !

[JBZ]

Hush, Matt

+1

The scalloped bezel, peanut butter cup HEV and skeleton hands kill the Omega for me.

Sure, but those design elements are featured on all of the Seamaster 300's (the peanut butter cup being a more recent addition).

Right, I'm not saying that the recent addition of these things have killed the watch for me, they always have. Which is why I prefer the BP.

That's fair, and the BP is a nice looking watch (with a date!). I've never been a huge fan of the scalloped bezel on the Seamaster, but I think the overall color scheme on this particular watch works well (and they dropped the "Bond" bracelet for this one, which I've never particularly liked).

[JBZ]

And, if I wanted titanium, the Pelagos is way better value!

Yep...

+100

Omega should never be more expensive than Rolex of any similar model anyway. That’s why they’re all on Jomashop at 40% off

Do you also think that the Daytona is 2 or 3 times better than a Speedy?

Absolutely, and I own both.

I'll second this. The Speedy is a fine watch; legible and very aesthetically pleasing to my eye. But it also uses 40+ year old movement technology which hasn't been updated much at all. Horizontal clutch with a cam-lever. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, and the 1861 is very durable, but the Rolex 4130 is a true in-house movement with a vertical clutch and column wheel, and it's amazingly compact and thin (alas, Omega's Co-Ax chronograph movement is ridiculously thick, no matter how reliable or well-made it might be). Further, the 4130 has been regularly updated and improved since its inception.

Aesthetics are a matter of choice (and I find the Speedy far more legible than the Daytona) but, from a mechanical POV, the Daytona wins easily. Is it worth what it's commanding on the market right now? No IMHO. Is it worth significantly more than the Speedy? I would say yes.

[Chris S.]

I'll pass. I'll keep my 2254.

[Panerai7]

Which is better?

Good point for price comparison. Omega wins for me aesthetically, though if BP dropped the red on the markers, I might change my answer.

Saw and tried that one
That watch is just all wrong
Omega looks better
And with the thick wide bezel BPFF doesn't work in 40mm.

[poppydog]

The scalloped bezel and case shape are the best aspects of the SMP imo. I think, however, as I get older, I'm way-too picky over the smaller design elements of watches.

[Henryj]

Too much of a mish mash for me. It wants to look vintage with the beige lume and the broad arrow, but it’s got a ceramic bezel, the He valve, modern Seamaster hands, and that ungrippy bezel. Don’t get me started on the bracelet or the no-date.