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Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by logan2z » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:15 am

Longines continues to churn out interesting Heritage reissues like the new Heritage Military 1938. The watch is 43mm in diameter (the same as the original) and 10mm thick. Movement is the Unitas 6498. Limited to 1938 pieces. Comes on either a leather or NATO strap. Priced at $2450.

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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by CGSshorty » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:34 am

That’s gorgeous. I’m amazed they didn’t modify the movement to have a date display.
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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by matt.wu » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:46 am

That’s a clean watch.
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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by logan2z » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:47 am

CGSshorty wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:34 am
That’s gorgeous. I’m amazed they didn’t modify the movement to have a date display.
Longines seems to make good choices ;)

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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:56 am

I like it a lot. It’s good looking and has a somewhat interesting movement. It’s too big for me, but at least it’s historically sized and not stupid fat.

I’d much rather have that than whatever vintage inspired watch iwc is currently selling.

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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by aikiman44 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:03 am

I love that one.
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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by JBZ » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:05 am

I agree that it looks really good. I know the size is based on the original, but that dial and bezel at 43mm is going to wear huge. I do really like the relative thinness of the case.
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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by gr8sw » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:10 am

nice looking watch, but hour hand seems kinda long? :shrug:
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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by logan2z » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:15 am

gr8sw wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:10 am
nice looking watch, but hour hand seems kinda long? :shrug:
It is fairly long but I think it looks ok. FWIW, it was like that on the original too.

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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by gr8sw » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:20 am

logan2z wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:15 am
gr8sw wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:10 am
nice looking watch, but hour hand seems kinda long? :shrug:
It is fairly long but I think it looks ok. FWIW, it was like that on the original too.

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interesting... never seen the OG version before... still think the hour hand's a bit long :scratch:
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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:25 am

This might be the first remake that’s better than the original

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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by jtbenson » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:28 am

CGSshorty wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:34 am
That’s gorgeous. I’m amazed they didn’t modify the movement to have a date display.
:roll:

love it. agree it will wear large, but this is how heritage resissues should be done: truthfully.
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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by r.palace » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:32 am

Very clean.

Longines, like Oris, do reissues the right way
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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by unsub073 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:42 am

That is sharp looking. It would probably wear much better at 40mm.

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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by logan2z » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:52 am

unsub073 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:42 am
That is sharp looking. It would probably wear much better at 40mm.
That would be the first reissue scaled down from the original :)

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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by hoppyjr » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:56 am

I agree that it’s lovely, but being all dial it’ll wear huge. Credit to Longines as they also kept the LLD and Skin Diver true to original specs.

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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by Joeprez » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:04 am

Really great looking, I like it a lot.
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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by Ryeguy » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:49 am

unsub073 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:42 am
That is sharp looking. It would probably wear much better at 40mm.
Can you even get a Unitas 6498 into a 40mm case? I think the movement itself is almost 37mm across, so a 40mm watch with this movement would have case walls only 1.5mm thick.

An ETA 2824-2 is only about 26 mm wide which is why most of those aviator still watches in 40mm use this movement.

To get hand wind and 40mm, I think Longines would've had to use an ETA 2801-2. I'm pretty sure this is the movement Hamilton puts in their 38mm hand wind field watches.

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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by AtomicTom » Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:41 am

Oh boy, they did such an amazing job on these it looks like Andrew ! :o :)

It's usually impossible to improve upon an original, but these may have
done that. ..Thanks so much for the news !

First time seeing them sir. :thumbsup:

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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by CGSshorty » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:06 am

Ryeguy wrote:
unsub073 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:42 am
That is sharp looking. It would probably wear much better at 40mm.
Can you even get a Unitas 6498 into a 40mm case? I think the movement itself is almost 37mm across, so a 40mm watch with this movement would have case walls only 1.5mm thick.

An ETA 2824-2 is only about 26 mm wide which is why most of those aviator still watches in 40mm use this movement.

To get hand wind and 40mm, I think Longines would've had to use an ETA 2801-2. I'm pretty sure this is the movement Hamilton puts in their 38mm hand wind field watches.
Stowa did it in a 41mm case.


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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by Ryeguy » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:11 am

CGSshorty wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:06 am
Ryeguy wrote:
unsub073 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:42 am
That is sharp looking. It would probably wear much better at 40mm.
Can you even get a Unitas 6498 into a 40mm case? I think the movement itself is almost 37mm across, so a 40mm watch with this movement would have case walls only 1.5mm thick.

An ETA 2824-2 is only about 26 mm wide which is why most of those aviator still watches in 40mm use this movement.

To get hand wind and 40mm, I think Longines would've had to use an ETA 2801-2. I'm pretty sure this is the movement Hamilton puts in their 38mm hand wind field watches.
Stowa did it in a 41mm case.


https://www.stowa.de/en/Flieger+classic+6498+41.htm
That is probably as small as practical a case for that movement. Those mid case walls are only about 2mm thick which doesn't leave much material to cut threads into for screwing down the case back or mounting the bezel.

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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by pbj204 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:55 am

Ryeguy wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:49 am
unsub073 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:42 am
That is sharp looking. It would probably wear much better at 40mm.
Can you even get a Unitas 6498 into a 40mm case? I think the movement itself is almost 37mm across, so a 40mm watch with this movement would have case walls only 1.5mm thick.

An ETA 2824-2 is only about 26 mm wide which is why most of those aviator still watches in 40mm use this movement.

To get hand wind and 40mm, I think Longines would've had to use an ETA 2801-2. I'm pretty sure this is the movement Hamilton puts in their 38mm hand wind field watches.

I have a 6498 in a 40.5mm watch.

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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by Ryeguy » Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:01 pm

pbj204 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:55 am
Ryeguy wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:49 am
unsub073 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:42 am
That is sharp looking. It would probably wear much better at 40mm.
Can you even get a Unitas 6498 into a 40mm case? I think the movement itself is almost 37mm across, so a 40mm watch with this movement would have case walls only 1.5mm thick.

An ETA 2824-2 is only about 26 mm wide which is why most of those aviator still watches in 40mm use this movement.

To get hand wind and 40mm, I think Longines would've had to use an ETA 2801-2. I'm pretty sure this is the movement Hamilton puts in their 38mm hand wind field watches.

I have a 6498 in a 40.5mm watch.
Everything I've read says that movement is 36.6mm wide (https://wornandwound.com/caliber-spec-unitas-64976498/)

40.5 - 36.6 = 3.9mm Divide that by 2 and you have a mid case wall thickness of only 1.95mm thick (and that is assuming perfect machining with no gap for tolerance variances).

A quick google search shows Tourby claiming a 40.5mm 6498 watch, but I'd guess it is either (a) closer to 41 than 40 in diameter or (b) a very delicate watch.

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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by hoppes-no9 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:05 pm

This looks fantastic. Well done, Longines.

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Re: Longines Heritage Military 1938

Post by Cabaiguan » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:45 pm

They seem to have a watch with the same name released in 2013 w auto movement, date and 40mm. Bit confusing. This one is a stunner though.

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