Another thing I like about the 2-liner is it still has an applied lume marker by the date even though it's smaller I like that about it.
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Shogun says it is 44mm, it wears smaller imo. The bezel sounds "tingy" when operating it. I liked it, but the Pelagos is whole different watch. Also the Pelagos has one of the best bezels made imo.
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I just stumbled across the mido ocean star in titanium...I had never heard of it but it looks really promising and a nice alternative to the Shogun.
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It is definitely an alternative for sure.
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I’ve owned this one as well. If you like a good bracelet and don’t mind the orange, the MIdo is an excellent alternative to the Shogun. MIdo seems to do some adjusting on timing on their 2824 movements as both Midos I have owned have been very accurate. The MIdo is super thin and more comfortable on the wrist than the Tudor or Seiko. Wears more like a classic SMP.
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In that case I would take in-house, only just so I don't have to hear some moron comparing it with some Helson with eta2824
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Hypotheticals are nice to throw back and forth on, but the reality is the Pelagos will very likely remain with 3-4 lines of text.
The in-house movement is a nice touch, but IMO not at the cost of having to see all that text on the dial every time you look at your watch. I'd say if you can land a two-liner at a good price, it's worth it.
Now the LDH is different...if you were thinking of that, then
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agree with 2 liner.
Nothing wrong with a modified ETA
Nothing wrong with a modified ETA
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The ETA movement is more practical. Most watchmakers will have access to parts, whereas the in-house movement will likely have to be serviced by Tudor.
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I went w the 2 liner. Would rather have the reliability and easy service of the ETA. And thinner, less text, lume plot by the date, etc.
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I'm forgetting about everything else and I'm just going to save up for the Pelagos, no other stops along the way. ETA or In House is TBD.
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Because of the date location on their in-house.Panerai7 wrote:I keep forgetting about the lume plot next to date. Wonder why Tudor decided to drop it
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Pelagos!!! Haven’t even thought of wearing anything else since I got it!
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All these talks and posts about Pelagos lately make me want a 11th and as a keeper this time of course
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All these talks and posts about Pelagos lately make me want a 11th and as a keeper this time of course
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It is definitely a watch that sticks with you in the head. I keep thinking about another too..... damn I hope they make a thinner version with the new movement.
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Not to beat a dead horse but I really don't remember Pelagos being particularly thick in any way.
I mean it's 14.3 for the in-house and 13.8 for ETA - not thick.
Black Bay with in-house is 14.8mm
Shoot, my SLA017 62mas was 14.1 and it was 39.9mm in diameter, talk about 5x6 look and feel on the wrist.
All Sinn chronos, 103, 356,358 are 16.5-17, and pretty much every 7750-based chrono is that thick
Turtle is 14mm,
Subc is 13mm without the cyclops
Speedy pro is 14mm and everyone loves it, PO 2500D is 14.2 and its everyone's nostalgia hard-on how thin and comfortable it was...
I don't see how Pelagos was abnormally thick unless you're used to some dress watches, plus Titanium is lighter than most of the watches I just mentioned, and half of people around here are wearing them on double-ply Nato that's another 2.5mm additional thickness to the watch.
I'm not even comparing it to DSSD at 17mm or Panerai Luminor case 16.5 or PO 8500 at 16+mm and other chunky monkeys
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^ I agree it’s not actually thick, but the style is rather slab-sided and we’ve already talked about lug hole placement.
While I like the thinner case (and movement) of the BB58, the side photos indicate it follows the same design and lug hole placement, albeit on a smaller scale.
While I like the thinner case (and movement) of the BB58, the side photos indicate it follows the same design and lug hole placement, albeit on a smaller scale.
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I've had a couple or three as well, and it seems to be sticking for me this time as well. I'm not sure what the change is for me - I'm guessing it has something to do with the meteoric rise in pricing of comparable watches (especially Rolex sport models) that all of the sudden make the value proposition ridiculously compelling.
When a No Date SubC was $5k (or an SD-C at $6k) and a Pelegos was $2.5k, it was a bit tougher, even though the Pelagos was a damn terrific watch even at introduction. But when that exact same Sub is $7.5k and the SD is $10k, the Pelagos (still at that same $2.5kish) becomes irresistible.
I think for me, it also has to do with the fact that my tastes in watches are changing yet again, and if anything, settling down a bit. The watch bubble (both in vintage and Rolex/Patek) has soured me a bit on anything "high-end". Yet another reason Tudor as a whole is appealing right now.
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I wore a Pelagos daily for a year several years back, and have most recently wore a Speedy pro for most of the past year. The numbers are somewhat meaningless, it really comes down to the case shape. Speedy has a thin mid case, with much of the thickness being in the case back and acrylic crystal, so it wears thin and easily slips under a sleeve. Pelagos has a blocky design and just wears differently/feels differently on the wrist - and I don't like blocky watches. Comes down to personal preference.......Panerai7 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:59 amNot to beat a dead horse but I really don't remember Pelagos being particularly thick in any way.
I mean it's 14.3 for the in-house and 13.8 for ETA - not thick.
Black Bay with in-house is 14.8mm
Shoot, my SLA017 62mas was 14.1 and it was 39.9mm in diameter, talk about 5x6 look and feel on the wrist.
All Sinn chronos, 103, 356,358 are 16.5-17, and pretty much every 7750-based chrono is that thick
Turtle is 14mm,
Subc is 13mm without the cyclops
Speedy pro is 14mm and everyone loves it, PO 2500D is 14.2 and its everyone's nostalgia hard-on how thin and comfortable it was...
I don't see how Pelagos was abnormally thick unless you're used to some dress watches, plus Titanium is lighter than most of the watches I just mentioned, and half of people around here are wearing them on double-ply Nato that's another 2.5mm additional thickness to the watch.
I'm not even comparing it to DSSD at 17mm or Panerai Luminor case 16.5 or PO 8500 at 16+mm and other chunky monkeys
It certainly is not abnormally thick, but the gold standard for wear ability is the Rolex sub case profile and the Pelagos wears differently. An incredible watch regardless.
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Case shape of course plays a role
Although Pelagos does suffer from a mild case of Nomos lugs it's nowhere near BB gaps
Too much talking about BWITW and not enough pics
Although Pelagos does suffer from a mild case of Nomos lugs it's nowhere near BB gaps
Too much talking about BWITW and not enough pics
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Yeah I am going to need to find a 2-liner ASAP.
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Just a great looking watch. I’ve never handled one and I’ve always been drawn to the Black Bay, but I think I would pick the Pelagos these days. It seems more modern yet somehow cleaner at the same time.
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