Thinking hard about Zenith Pilot Cronometro Tipo CP-2 Flyback

[JP Chestnut]

I prefer the regular black one. I think it's attractive, but those subdials are... uh... challenging. I don't think anyone would prefer the current version to one with more conventional subdial placement.

Why are the subdials challenging? Easy to read to me.

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They look stupid.

[ericf4]

I prefer the regular black one. I think it's attractive, but those subdials are... uh... challenging. I don't think anyone would prefer the current version to one with more conventional subdial placement.

Why are the subdials challenging? Easy to read to me.

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They look stupid.

Yeah I still don't see it. ...

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[Jeep99dad]

I prefer the regular black one. I think it's attractive, but those subdials are... uh... challenging. I don't think anyone would prefer the current version to one with more conventional subdial placement.

Why are the subdials challenging? Easy to read to me.

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They look stupid.

Care to actually explain?
I am curious. I had the watch on and didn’t see an issue with the subdials ?

[JP Chestnut]

The spacing is all wrong for the dial size, just like almost all modern EP based watches. Sometimes they can hide it decently. On this watch they oversized everything and empahsized it.

Push the subdials out 20% and it would be great. As it is, it’s a compromised design built on a too small movement.

[ericf4]

yeah i think its still hot as hell. Looks like if i get one and ever flip it, JP is out...

[JP Chestnut]

I'm sure it's less of an issue in person. Even the Speedy Pro looks a bit cramped in macros.

[ericf4]

NOW THATS FUNNY

[jimyritz]

yeah i do like this one as well

I like this one....

[ericf4]

I just feel like I don't need another black watch. Plus I like the idea that that new one is a flyback

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[jimyritz]

I just feel like I don't need another black watch. Plus I like the idea that that new one is a flyback

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makes sense--

reminds me of the Dodane 1857...

http://www.dodane1857.com/

Mike

[logan2z]

I just feel like I don't need another black watch. Plus I like the idea that that new one is a flyback

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If you're looking to spend in that range, how about a Heuer Bund? Better dial design, better value retention, lots of history and a flyback chronograph. Yeah, it's vintage but the movement is easy to service.

[matt.wu]

Heuer Bund is a winner!

[caesarmascetti]

that's funny I bought my Zenith because I wanted a Heuer Bund type vibe but in a modern watch and it scratched that itch perfectly. It's also the most accurate watch I own

[ericf4]

I will likely buy the aged steel version this week when I'm back from a biz trip. Drew's pics on Instagram sealed it for me. The key is putting a strap on it that doesn't blend w the watch as much as the OEM. Interesting that the OEM strap is a 22 tapering to 18 at the buckle. Drew mentioned it's vintage cut.

[ericf4]

Looking forward to seeing it tomorrow!

[Nellipj]

Looking forward to seeing it tomorrow!

Just in time for Lunch Thursday, congrats!

[ericf4]

Looking forward to seeing it tomorrow!

Just in time for Lunch Thursday, congrats!

Thx Pat. Can't wait to get back home tomorrow to see it.

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[ericf4]

Borrowed Drew's pic since this is the strap I got from him. Also he had this flame treated buckle I'm gonna try on it along with the OEM one of course.

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[dnslater]

The spacing is all wrong for the dial size, just like almost all modern EP based watches. Sometimes they can hide it decently. On this watch they oversized everything and empahsized it.

Push the subdials out 20% and it would be great. As it is, it’s a compromised design built on a too small movement.

I understand what your saying but I think it works on this watch. Pushing them out would compromise the 2, 4, 8 and 10. The subdials are evenly spaced between those numerals and the center, which makes it work.

[JP Chestnut]

The spacing is all wrong for the dial size, just like almost all modern EP based watches. Sometimes they can hide it decently. On this watch they oversized everything and empahsized it.

Push the subdials out 20% and it would be great. As it is, it’s a compromised design built on a too small movement.

I understand what your saying but I think it works on this watch. Pushing them out would compromise the 2, 4, 8 and 10. The subdials are evenly spaced between those numerals and the center, which makes it work.

Good point. It needs a marker of some sort at 3 and 9 though. There's too much negative space between the sub dial and the edge of the dial. A little square lume plot would have made it less visually pinched towards the center.

[logan2z]

The spacing is all wrong for the dial size, just like almost all modern EP based watches. Sometimes they can hide it decently. On this watch they oversized everything and empahsized it.

Push the subdials out 20% and it would be great. As it is, it’s a compromised design built on a too small movement.

I understand what your saying but I think it works on this watch. Pushing them out would compromise the 2, 4, 8 and 10. The subdials are evenly spaced between those numerals and the center, which makes it work.

Pushing the subdials out further from the center seemed to work fine on the original, without compromising any of the numerals:



The font seems to be thinner on the original which may have left a bit more room for the subdials. It's possible that the subdials on the original are a bit smaller too, but I've never seen one in person.

The case of the original is the same size as the reissue - 43mm - but the original did not use the relatively small EP movement.

[Dedalus]

Borrowed Drew's pic since this is the strap I got from him. Also he had this flame treated buckle I'm gonna try on it along with the OEM one of course.

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Congrats, Eric.

[1954Selmer]

That Z is spinning. Congrats Eric!