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Re: Do you think we'll ever switch to Metric?

Post by Panerai7 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:00 am

Axelay2003 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:42 am
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That IS bizarre that the tires are measured like that. I guess it's a result of industry attempting to convert to P-Metric but hasn't completely.

Off road tires are still commonly measured in inches, 32" tire, 33" tire referring to its diameter. Once switched to P-Metric there was even more confusion introduced to the sizing. For instance not everyone knows that in 255/50R18 the second number 50 is not in MM but in the the percentage of the first number, so 50% of 255 is 127.5mm the height of the wall not 50-anything

Anyway, what started out as a mini rant turned into a decent thread. :thumbsup:
Funny how this thread moved to tires. I just arrive in Tempe, AZ, today(late Thursday night) for a Blatchford Big Doc meeting tomorrow and then flying out to San Diego on Friday night to purchase a company car Saturday morning. I am in the middle of purchasing wheels and tires for my Toyota Tundra that I will be purchasing in Imperial, CA and shipping to FL, :lol: .
California has good prices on cars :thumbsup:

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Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:47 am

And they don't yet require a breathalyzer be fitted.

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Post by Axelay2003 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:52 am

Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:00 am
Axelay2003 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:42 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:18 am
That IS bizarre that the tires are measured like that. I guess it's a result of industry attempting to convert to P-Metric but hasn't completely.

Off road tires are still commonly measured in inches, 32" tire, 33" tire referring to its diameter. Once switched to P-Metric there was even more confusion introduced to the sizing. For instance not everyone knows that in 255/50R18 the second number 50 is not in MM but in the the percentage of the first number, so 50% of 255 is 127.5mm the height of the wall not 50-anything

Anyway, what started out as a mini rant turned into a decent thread. :thumbsup:
Funny how this thread moved to tires. I just arrive in Tempe, AZ, today(late Thursday night) for a Blatchford Big Doc meeting tomorrow and then flying out to San Diego on Friday night to purchase a company car Saturday morning. I am in the middle of purchasing wheels and tires for my Toyota Tundra that I will be purchasing in Imperial, CA and shipping to FL, :lol: .
California has good prices on cars :thumbsup:
Yes, and they don’t require you to have Flex Fuel(additional $3k), lol. There are two Flex Fuel stations in FL which are over 300 miles from where we live. Toyota requires Flex Fuel in the model and trim I am interested in, in FL, but not in CA. FL Toyota also wanted me to pay MSRP because it is a “custom” build. I found a dealer through a FB Toyota group and he was able to build the exact one without the Flex Fuel and am paying at invoice. Funny thing is, the Toyotas are all built in San Antonio, TX.
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Re: Do you think we'll ever switch to Metric?

Post by JDC222 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:55 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
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And they don't yet require a breathalyzer be fitted.
...but they should!

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Re: Do you think we'll ever switch to Metric?

Post by james80 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:05 am

Axelay2003 wrote:
Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:00 am
Axelay2003 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:42 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:18 am
That IS bizarre that the tires are measured like that. I guess it's a result of industry attempting to convert to P-Metric but hasn't completely.

Off road tires are still commonly measured in inches, 32" tire, 33" tire referring to its diameter. Once switched to P-Metric there was even more confusion introduced to the sizing. For instance not everyone knows that in 255/50R18 the second number 50 is not in MM but in the the percentage of the first number, so 50% of 255 is 127.5mm the height of the wall not 50-anything

Anyway, what started out as a mini rant turned into a decent thread. :thumbsup:
Funny how this thread moved to tires. I just arrive in Tempe, AZ, today(late Thursday night) for a Blatchford Big Doc meeting tomorrow and then flying out to San Diego on Friday night to purchase a company car Saturday morning. I am in the middle of purchasing wheels and tires for my Toyota Tundra that I will be purchasing in Imperial, CA and shipping to FL, :lol: .
California has good prices on cars :thumbsup:
Yes, and they don’t require you to have Flex Fuel(additional $3k), lol. There are two Flex Fuel stations in FL which are over 300 miles from where we live. Toyota requires Flex Fuel in the model and trim I am interested in, in FL, but not in CA. FL Toyota also wanted me to pay MSRP because it is a “custom” build. I found a dealer through a FB Toyota group and he was able to build the exact one without the Flex Fuel and am paying at invoice. Funny thing is, the Toyotas are all built in San Antonio, TX.
And they’ll deliver it to FL?

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Re: Do you think we'll ever switch to Metric?

Post by Panerai7 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:49 am

Axelay2003 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:52 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:00 am
Axelay2003 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:42 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:18 am
That IS bizarre that the tires are measured like that. I guess it's a result of industry attempting to convert to P-Metric but hasn't completely.

Off road tires are still commonly measured in inches, 32" tire, 33" tire referring to its diameter. Once switched to P-Metric there was even more confusion introduced to the sizing. For instance not everyone knows that in 255/50R18 the second number 50 is not in MM but in the the percentage of the first number, so 50% of 255 is 127.5mm the height of the wall not 50-anything

Anyway, what started out as a mini rant turned into a decent thread. :thumbsup:
Funny how this thread moved to tires. I just arrive in Tempe, AZ, today(late Thursday night) for a Blatchford Big Doc meeting tomorrow and then flying out to San Diego on Friday night to purchase a company car Saturday morning. I am in the middle of purchasing wheels and tires for my Toyota Tundra that I will be purchasing in Imperial, CA and shipping to FL, :lol: .
California has good prices on cars :thumbsup:
Yes, and they don’t require you to have Flex Fuel(additional $3k), lol. There are two Flex Fuel stations in FL which are over 300 miles from where we live. Toyota requires Flex Fuel in the model and trim I am interested in, in FL, but not in CA. FL Toyota also wanted me to pay MSRP because it is a “custom” build. I found a dealer through a FB Toyota group and he was able to build the exact one without the Flex Fuel and am paying at invoice. Funny thing is, the Toyotas are all built in San Antonio, TX.
That's great to hear. I don't like Flex Fuel personally

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Re: Do you think we'll ever switch to Metric?

Post by Steve O. » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:17 pm

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There's two types of countries in the world:
1. Those that use the metric system and..
2. Those that have been to the fucking moon
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Re: Do you think we'll ever switch to Metric?

Post by Axelay2003 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:06 pm

james80 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:05 am
Axelay2003 wrote:
Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:00 am
Axelay2003 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:42 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:18 am
That IS bizarre that the tires are measured like that. I guess it's a result of industry attempting to convert to P-Metric but hasn't completely.

Off road tires are still commonly measured in inches, 32" tire, 33" tire referring to its diameter. Once switched to P-Metric there was even more confusion introduced to the sizing. For instance not everyone knows that in 255/50R18 the second number 50 is not in MM but in the the percentage of the first number, so 50% of 255 is 127.5mm the height of the wall not 50-anything

Anyway, what started out as a mini rant turned into a decent thread. :thumbsup:
Funny how this thread moved to tires. I just arrive in Tempe, AZ, today(late Thursday night) for a Blatchford Big Doc meeting tomorrow and then flying out to San Diego on Friday night to purchase a company car Saturday morning. I am in the middle of purchasing wheels and tires for my Toyota Tundra that I will be purchasing in Imperial, CA and shipping to FL, :lol: .
California has good prices on cars :thumbsup:
Yes, and they don’t require you to have Flex Fuel(additional $3k), lol. There are two Flex Fuel stations in FL which are over 300 miles from where we live. Toyota requires Flex Fuel in the model and trim I am interested in, in FL, but not in CA. FL Toyota also wanted me to pay MSRP because it is a “custom” build. I found a dealer through a FB Toyota group and he was able to build the exact one without the Flex Fuel and am paying at invoice. Funny thing is, the Toyotas are all built in San Antonio, TX.
And they’ll deliver it to FL?
I’m paying a third party shipping company to do it. Still saving quite a bit.
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Post by james80 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:15 pm

Axelay2003 wrote:
james80 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:05 am
Axelay2003 wrote:
Panerai7 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:00 am
Axelay2003 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:42 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:18 am
That IS bizarre that the tires are measured like that. I guess it's a result of industry attempting to convert to P-Metric but hasn't completely.

Off road tires are still commonly measured in inches, 32" tire, 33" tire referring to its diameter. Once switched to P-Metric there was even more confusion introduced to the sizing. For instance not everyone knows that in 255/50R18 the second number 50 is not in MM but in the the percentage of the first number, so 50% of 255 is 127.5mm the height of the wall not 50-anything

Anyway, what started out as a mini rant turned into a decent thread. :thumbsup:
Funny how this thread moved to tires. I just arrive in Tempe, AZ, today(late Thursday night) for a Blatchford Big Doc meeting tomorrow and then flying out to San Diego on Friday night to purchase a company car Saturday morning. I am in the middle of purchasing wheels and tires for my Toyota Tundra that I will be purchasing in Imperial, CA and shipping to FL, :lol: .
California has good prices on cars :thumbsup:
Yes, and they don’t require you to have Flex Fuel(additional $3k), lol. There are two Flex Fuel stations in FL which are over 300 miles from where we live. Toyota requires Flex Fuel in the model and trim I am interested in, in FL, but not in CA. FL Toyota also wanted me to pay MSRP because it is a “custom” build. I found a dealer through a FB Toyota group and he was able to build the exact one without the Flex Fuel and am paying at invoice. Funny thing is, the Toyotas are all built in San Antonio, TX.
And they’ll deliver it to FL?
I’m paying a third party shipping company to do it. Still saving quite a bit.
And no impact on the warranty?

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Post by Axelay2003 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:05 pm

No impact on warranty.
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Post by CGSshorty » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:43 am

What is the difference between the Flex Fuel version and the regular engine?
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What is the difference between the Flex Fuel version and the regular engine?
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Post by Selym » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:13 am

CGSshorty wrote:
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What is the difference between the Flex Fuel version and the regular engine?
Flex Fuel can run E85 (85% ethanol, 15% gasoline).

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Post by foxint » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:08 pm

Hi Guys

Love the debate...

I know I will be kicked out for saying this.... but I am a bloke and went to an all-boys boarding school and live in a metric country...but there are still things in imperial.

But the best thing about metric....is my Gentleman's Sausage if measured in metric will become enormous.... Just a thought...
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Post by Graeme » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:21 pm

foxint wrote:Hi Guys

Love the debate...

I know I will be kicked out for saying this.... but I am a bloke and went to an all-boys boarding school and live in a metric country...but there are still things in imperial.

But the best thing about metric....is my Gentleman's Sausage if measured in metric will become enormous.... Just a thought...
I dunno, I live in a metric country too and measure "it" in inches and it's still massive! Image

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Post by foxint » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:41 pm

To be Sure. To be Sure....

Hope you are doing well....
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Post by Graeme » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:19 pm

foxint wrote:To be Sure. To be Sure....

Hope you are doing well....
Yes all good here. That reminds me I need to shoot you an email.

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Post by CGSshorty » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:21 pm

Selym wrote:
CGSshorty wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:43 am
What is the difference between the Flex Fuel version and the regular engine?
Flex Fuel can run E85 (85% ethanol, 15% gasoline).
I understand that. What is the reason you’d go to the trouble of buying one that isn’t Flex Fuel?
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Post by Selym » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:42 pm

CGSshorty wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:21 pm
Selym wrote:
CGSshorty wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:43 am
What is the difference between the Flex Fuel version and the regular engine?
Flex Fuel can run E85 (85% ethanol, 15% gasoline).
I understand that. What is the reason you’d go to the trouble of buying one that isn’t Flex Fuel?
Apparently the Flex Fuel version of that particular vehicle costs $3k more.

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Post by CGSshorty » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:17 pm

Selym wrote:
CGSshorty wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:21 pm
Selym wrote:
CGSshorty wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:43 am
What is the difference between the Flex Fuel version and the regular engine?
Flex Fuel can run E85 (85% ethanol, 15% gasoline).
I understand that. What is the reason you’d go to the trouble of buying one that isn’t Flex Fuel?
Apparently the Flex Fuel version of that particular vehicle costs $3k more.
That’s a damn good reason. I thought there was a mechanical reason he wanted the standard version.
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Post by JDC222 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:30 pm

Graeme wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:21 pm
foxint wrote:Hi Guys

Love the debate...

I know I will be kicked out for saying this.... but I am a bloke and went to an all-boys boarding school and live in a metric country...but there are still things in imperial.

But the best thing about metric....is my Gentleman's Sausage if measured in metric will become enormous.... Just a thought...
I dunno, I live in a metric country too and measure "it" in inches and it's still massive! Image

Regards Graeme
Same...I think Terry has an up-kilt pic from a few years ago. :lol:
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Post by Panerai7 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:43 pm

CGSshorty wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:17 pm
Selym wrote:
CGSshorty wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:21 pm
Selym wrote:
CGSshorty wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:43 am
What is the difference between the Flex Fuel version and the regular engine?
Flex Fuel can run E85 (85% ethanol, 15% gasoline).
I understand that. What is the reason you’d go to the trouble of buying one that isn’t Flex Fuel?
Apparently the Flex Fuel version of that particular vehicle costs $3k more.
That’s a damn good reason. I thought there was a mechanical reason he wanted the standard version.
If you run it on gas only then there's no difference in performance but just an extra component that could break and $ to fix. If you run it on E85 you lose gas mileage and service interval for oil changes is cut in half. So if I had a choice I'd pick non FFV

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Post by Axelay2003 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:00 pm

Exactly why I chose Non FF. Also read too many horror stories in Tundra forums.
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Post by streetracer101 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:22 pm

Axelay2003 wrote:Exactly why I chose Non FF. Also read too many horror stories in Tundra forums.
Why a Tundra? The platform is super dated and destined for a revision in 2019. The new Fords and GMCs are far more fuel efficient and just as reliable imo.

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Post by Axelay2003 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:46 pm

streetracer101 wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:22 pm
Axelay2003 wrote:Exactly why I chose Non FF. Also read too many horror stories in Tundra forums.
Why a Tundra? The platform is super dated and destined for a revision in 2019. The new Fords and GMCs are far more fuel efficient and just as reliable imo.

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I am due for a 6-seater long bed. There is no question as far as quality and reliability. I also don’t like being the first to “try out” the newer models. I usually wait until the later editions so most all of the “trouble shootings” have been taken care of.

I have four little ones and with this setup, it will be functional for what is required for our family(kayaking, scouting, etc). It’s actually a “company car” and this year, I am able to write off the entire bill instead of breaking down to multiple yearly deductions.

Here it is fellas! I just signed the papers and it is officially mine. Now the wait to have it transported to FL. I’ll have it transported via an enclosed carrier to protect from elements.

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