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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by jeckyll » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:51 pm

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Jeep99dad wrote:
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outtatime wrote:I’ve said it before, but all Ball watches look the same to me. Still, when these are selling for $650 used it might be OK. The fit & finish on the bracelet looks to be about Steinhart quality to me.

Also, get off my lawn.
Having handled Balls before Image🤨, I’d say that it’s not true. They make an overall superior watch and bracelet.
I obviously haven’t had nearly enough balls in my hands.

If you get one, I’ll pre-order it used from you. 43mm Blue please. :)
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It’ll wear too large for an all-dial Explorer type watch. I’ll get 40mm


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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by gamecock111 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:14 pm

I really like this and 43mm is a big plus for me. I didn’t see an expected ship date. Is it listed somewhere?

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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by Jeep99dad » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:32 pm

gamecock111 wrote:I really like this and 43mm is a big plus for me. I didn’t see an expected ship date. Is it listed somewhere?
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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by gamecock111 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:39 pm

Oh, it was in English

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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by deepcdvr » Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:17 pm

Jeep99dad wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:04 am
outtatime wrote:I’ve said it before, but all Ball watches look the same to me. Still, when these are selling for $650 used it might be OK. The fit & finish on the bracelet looks to be about Steinhart quality to me.

Also, get off my lawn.
Having handled Balls before Image🤨, I’d say that it’s not true. They make an overall superior watch and bracelet.
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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by mattcantwin » Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:41 pm

If I get one, I'm with Brice on the blue in 40mm.


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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by CGSshorty » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:00 pm

Do they have any without the retarded stick-figure numbers?
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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by Torrid » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:08 pm

CGSshorty wrote:
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Do they have any without the retarded stick-figure numbers?
Yeah you pretty much have to look at the dressier Fireman Classic line.

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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by james80 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:53 pm

Or the Marvelight

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Post by ericf4 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:31 pm

james80 wrote:Or the Marvelight

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Ok that shits hot. Reminds me of the blue dial Rolex date just, newer model.

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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by mattcantwin » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:44 pm

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Reminds me of the blue dial Rolex date just, newer model.
Yep.



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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by dinexus » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:19 pm

If this brand wasn’t such a hot mess, I’d bite. Have a few winners amidst all the madness.


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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by ericf4 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:44 am

dinexus wrote:If this brand wasn’t such a hot mess, I’d bite. Have a few winners amidst all the madness.


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Hot mess from design perspective or organizationally? They are a long established brand. Only a few designs I like though. They should ditch the tubes on some models to allow flexibility on dial design.

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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by dnslater » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:06 am

ericf4 wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:44 am
dinexus wrote:If this brand wasn’t such a hot mess, I’d bite. Have a few winners amidst all the madness.


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Hot mess from design perspective or organizationally? They are a long established brand. Only a few designs I like though. They should ditch the tubes on some models to allow flexibility on dial design.

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While I don’t like some of their designs, the tubes are kind of their thing and I like when quirky brands stay quirky. People complain about Rolex derivatives and then when brand like Ball introduce new watches people complain that they should be more like a sub or explorer.

I had a Skindiver a few years ago and quality was fantastic and it kept superb time. Definitely far and above watches in the sub $1k market.

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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by jeckyll » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:06 pm

Nick, I remember the outrage when the Marvelight came out... Rolex copy etc. I think sometimes what makes certain brands unique will keep some folks away while attracting a smaller number.

That's why so many companies make their living selling warmed up or outright copied designs. Like Steinhart. I bet if they'd made more money with their original designs they'd have more of them. But instead they do a lot of copying and sticking their name on it. Nothing new. Hell, I see 'Rolex copy' all over some of the older Heuers that so many people really like and I see very little difference between what they did and what so many do today

Not going to be a very popular opinion most likely :fro:
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Post by BBK357 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:55 pm

I like this


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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by Torrid » Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:59 am

I like this new Legend but after seeing the Marvelight I’d likely go with it over the Legend. Either way I’m a bit of a fan of the brand these days and this one likely won’t be my last.

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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by Jeep99dad » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:31 am

Torrid wrote:I like this new Legend but after seeing the Marvelight I’d likely go with it over the Legend. Either way I’m a bit of a fan of the brand these days and this one likely won’t be my last.

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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by Ryeguy » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:35 am

jeckyll wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:06 pm
Nick, I remember the outrage when the Marvelight came out... Rolex copy etc. I think sometimes what makes certain brands unique will keep some folks away while attracting a smaller number.

That's why so many companies make their living selling warmed up or outright copied designs. Like Steinhart. I bet if they'd made more money with their original designs they'd have more of them. But instead they do a lot of copying and sticking their name on it. Nothing new. Hell, I see 'Rolex copy' all over some of the older Heuers that so many people really like and I see very little difference between what they did and what so many do today

Not going to be a very popular opinion most likely :fro:
I don't disagree with you. Steinhart is in business to make money and Rolex "homages" sell. No different than companies such as Squale coming out with their 20 ATMOS line of Sub-a-likes. Those models probably drive enough revenue to keep the lights on at Squale. It is probably the same reason Heuer copied the Rolex Sub design all those years ago. It is a design many people find appealing, so if you want to make money, you produce a known winner.

Quite honestly, I put Squale, Steinhart, and nearly all the $1,000-ish "Swiss Made" watches in the same category. They all leverage the rules of "Swiss Made" to assemble foreign manufactured components into a "Swiss Made" watch. This doesn't make them bad watches, but I can't see Ball claiming their watch is "more Swiss Made" than Steinhart.

From a design perspective, Ball is certainly unique and quirky, which is OK until you end up like Fortis. As much as the "artist" in me hates it, the reality is "unique and quirky" needs to be balanced with revenue.

I like this Ball Engineer III Legend's blue dial and handset. I think the 40mm case is perfect for this style watch. I just think the stick figure numbers look childish and out of place next to those ornate hands and for that reason, I am out.

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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by pbj204 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:58 am

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I think the tubes work better with stick indices rather than numerals

Except for the Moonglow

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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by outtatime » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:19 am

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Now that is ugly IMO. The black ones are ok.
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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by JP Chestnut » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:20 am

ericf4 wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:31 pm
james80 wrote:Or the Marvelight

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Ok that shits hot. Reminds me of the blue dial Rolex date just, newer model.

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Goodness that sucks. It takes everything bad about the awkward Rolex DJ2 and turns it up to 11.

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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by ericf4 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:39 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:20 am
ericf4 wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:31 pm
james80 wrote:Or the Marvelight

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Ok that shits hot. Reminds me of the blue dial Rolex date just, newer model.

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Goodness that sucks. It takes everything bad about the awkward Rolex DJ2 and turns it up to 11.
disagree.....not sure what is awkward on the rolex...??
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Re: Ball Engineer III Legend Pre-Order

Post by dinexus » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:01 am

ericf4 wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:44 am
dinexus wrote:If this brand wasn’t such a hot mess, I’d bite. Have a few winners amidst all the madness.

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Hot mess from design perspective or organizationally? They are a long established brand. Only a few designs I like though. They should ditch the tubes on some models to allow flexibility on dial design.
Just organizationally. They had a million skus back when I paid attention to them, but now their release cadence seems to have actually accelerated with this new online pre-order system. Nothing seems to have any permanence in their collection, which drives me nuts. Plus, with the pre-order pricing dramatically devaluing anything they've done in the past (which is fine, buying used with Ball was always a better value), it definitely smacks of a management team throwing whatever they've got at the wall and praying something will stick, while royally screwing over their AD network in the process. Not exactly a brand whose values or distribution means I respect enough to continue supporting. Shame, the EMII Diver Worldtime was (and still is) one of the most interesting watches they've ever made.

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