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why won't anybody touch Girard Perregaux?

Post by dinexus » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:29 pm

Look, I get it – $14k for a Laureato is goddamned ludicrous, but is their pricing structure the biggest reason why ADs seem to avoid this brand like the plague? GP seems to have the history and the in-house manufactory that (on paper) would put them in league with JLC/AP/VC, etc. but consumers certainly haven't bought into the lore. Or is it not the price, but rather the fact that they just don't have a winning classic yet?

Hell, every brand has had some stinkers, but GP seems have made some great stuff in the last 5 or so years, and nobody cares. Rightfully so, or nah?

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Post by FlyPenFly » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:36 pm

FOR ME, In person, their high end diver while it looks cool, doesn't *feel* any better made than a PO, if in fact maybe a little not as nice? They feel about as nice as a Eterna or Maurice or Longines or whatever. My definition of nice is the cohesiveness and proportions of the design. The fine finishing details of the hands, etc.

There are some watches like a Bremont Supermarine or Nomos that feels like they punch above their weight but if you put a ROO or Overseas next to a GP diver, it's obvious they're not in the NBA.
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Re: why won't anybody touch Girard Perregaux?

Post by hoppyjr » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:38 pm

I won’t touch Girard because I’m a dude and he’s a dude and I don’t roll like that.

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Post by FlyPenFly » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:41 pm

I think they're in a weird area where they're trying to charge Blancpain like prices for watches that are just not as good looking even though they have the horological background and things are very in house.

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Re: why won't anybody touch Girard Perregaux?

Post by streetracer101 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:41 pm

I think the prices scare most off. For those not scared by the prices, I think a lot of their offerings are either too big or too out there design wise for most people.

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Re: why won't anybody touch Girard Perregaux?

Post by dinexus » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:43 pm

FlyPenFly wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:36 pm
FOR ME, In person, their high end diver while it looks cool, doesn't *feel* any better made than a PO, if in fact maybe a little not as nice? They feel about as nice as a Eterna or Maurice or Longines or whatever. My definition of nice is the cohesiveness and proportions of the design. The fine finishing details of the hands, etc.

There are some watches like a Bremont Supermarine or Nomos that feels like they punch above their weight but if you put a ROO or Overseas next to a GP diver, it's obvious they're not in the NBA.
That's an extremely good point. I've never handled one, outside of a neat vintage Sea Hawk I stumbled on in a pawn shop years ago. Still sorta wish I'd bought it.

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Re: why won't anybody touch Girard Perregaux?

Post by dinexus » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:48 pm

...Wasn't Timeless a GP AD until somewhat recently? Can Brett or Dan chime in on why they're not anymore? Asking for a friend :bs:

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Post by streetracer101 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:51 pm

dinexus wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:48 pm
...Wasn't Timeless a GP AD until somewhat recently? Can Brett or Dan chime in on why they're not anymore? Asking for a friend :bs:
It is probably extremely difficult to sell a brand at MSRP that routinely is sold for 40% off or more on the gray market.

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Post by BBK357 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:56 pm

Cause that’s AP money


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Post by mikeylacroix » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:01 pm

I wld like a gp diver...they just don't fit well

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Post by FlyPenFly » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:26 pm

Their current diver looks really nice in person. But feels a little hollow too for some reason.

I think their main issue is they've never designed a watch where it was like, Holy Shit I need this watch. I can't stop thinking about this watch.

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Re: why won't anybody touch Girard Perregaux?

Post by JP Chestnut » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:40 pm

Because most of them are ugly, all of them are expensive, and none of them hold value.

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Post by Steve O. » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:58 pm

Owned a Sea Hawk to John Harrison a while back, but sold it fairly quickly. My favorite Girard Perregauxs weren't GPs at all, but Ebels. Had a Type E and a 1911 with GP 3300 movements. Those were nice. And under the radar.
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Post by JDC222 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:08 pm

hoppyjr wrote:I won’t touch Girard because I’m a dude and he’s a dude and I don’t roll like that.
That is certainly not the impression that I got, when I came over last week!
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Post by dinexus » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:09 pm

JP Chestnut wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:40 pm
Because most of them are ugly, all of them are expensive, and none of them hold value.
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Re: why won't anybody touch Girard Perregaux?

Post by fastward » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:12 pm

JDC222 wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:08 pm
hoppyjr wrote:I won’t touch Girard because I’m a dude and he’s a dude and I don’t roll like that.
That is certainly not the impression that I got, when I came over last week!
Must be his definition of “touch”.

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Re: why won't anybody touch Girard Perregaux?

Post by tattoo chef » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:12 pm

I’ll say this..this one is beautiful
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Post by dinexus » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:13 pm

fastward wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:12 pm
JDC222 wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:08 pm
hoppyjr wrote:I won’t touch Girard because I’m a dude and he’s a dude and I don’t roll like that.
That is certainly not the impression that I got, when I came over last week!
Must be his definition of “touch”.
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Re: why won't anybody touch Girard Perregaux?

Post by gwells » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:25 pm

JP Chestnut wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:40 pm
Because most of them are ugly, all of them are expensive, and none of them hold value.
this pretty much covers it for me.

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Re: why won't anybody touch Girard Perregaux?

Post by blkgsl » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:29 pm

AP asking prices for Jean Richard finish with in house movement. Secondary market has their true value assessed correctly, imo.


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Re: why won't anybody touch Girard Perregaux?

Post by matt.wu » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:46 pm

JP Chestnut wrote:Because most of them are ugly, all of them are expensive, and none of them hold value.
Nailed it.
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Re: why won't anybody touch Girard Perregaux?

Post by gr8sw » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:59 pm

I've owned a couple, always able to pick them up on the cheap... good quality but ridiculous msrp

this one was pretty nice, their 'Vintage 1960'

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Post by R@cerx » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:07 pm

fastward wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:12 pm
JDC222 wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:08 pm
hoppyjr wrote:I won’t touch Girard because I’m a dude and he’s a dude and I don’t roll like that.
That is certainly not the impression that I got, when I came over last week!
Must be his definition of “touch”.
More like a reach around.

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Re: why won't anybody touch Girard Perregaux?

Post by JP Chestnut » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:18 pm

tattoo chef wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:12 pm
I’ll say this..this one is beautiful
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More beautiful than an ARPO at approximately the same price, but with better resale and more horological significance?

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Post by tattoo chef » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:23 pm

JP Chestnut wrote:
tattoo chef wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:12 pm
I’ll say this..this one is beautiful
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More beautiful than an ARPO at approximately the same price, but with better resale and more horological significance?
AP no matter the model have never intrigued me at all.

To be honest, I can’t afford either. And if I could I wouldn’t be worried about resale value.


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