Got the itch for a (old school) pilots watch

[Heuerville]

I've managed to be very good the past year or so, not buying anything.
However, I do miss my old Hanhart 417ES Flieger.. pic below.. which I sold a while back. (Yes, I'm an idiot)



So, I've been having a look at a couple of Hanharts modern take on the flieger.
There are a couple of models, the mono pusher, and the more 'usual' twin pusher models. Both have a similar look..



However, the Junghams really intrigues me too. I'm still not sure about that bezel. From some angles I think it looks stunning, from 'straight on', I'm not so sure.




Both seem to be great value ($2k-ish), and have that under-the-radar-cool that is right in my wheel house.
I just wish that Junghans did a coin-edge bezel version, that would be perfect for me!

Has anyone got any hands-on experience of the Junghans?

[Heuerville]

Hmm.. it's growing on me..

[JP Chestnut]

I like that first one infinitely more

[Chocodove]

I don't know about that bezel either. Love everything else about it.

[logan2z]

No hands-on experience with the Junghans but I've had the modern Hanharts on the wrist a few times and really like them. I'd personally go for the monopusher for its uniqueness. Chris (CGSshorty) has the 40mm model and can provide more insight.

[logan2z]

42mm monopusher



40mm dual pusher



I think the dial layout of the 40mm is a lot nicer than the 42mm.

[Heuerville]

^Thanks!

[gwells]

i'm not sure about the bezel, either. but i did try it on at a roadshow. just under 7.25" wrist.

[sierra11b]

i'm not sure about the bezel, either. but i did try it on at a roadshow. just under 7.25" wrist.

Looks great but did you remember if the crown interfered with rotating the bezel? I have a very particular way of rotating my bezels which involves the careful positioning of cap lifters and dull knives.

[gwells]

don't think i even tried rotating the dial.

[sierra11b]

don't think i even tried rotating the dial.

I forgot to ask, due to its size/shape, does the crown dig into the top of your wrist? I've had issues with large crowns that are shaped similarly that tended to rub into or bother my wrist/hand

[streetracer101]

42mm monopusher



40mm dual pusher



I think the dial layout of the 40mm is a lot nicer than the 42mm.

Ugh. There was a dude selling a LNIB mon-pusher on ebay. I had him down to $1200 but somebody bought it before I had a chance to complete the purchase. Those pics piss me off now. Looks great.

[logan2z]

Ugh. There was a dude selling a LNIB mon-pusher on ebay. I had him down to $1200 but somebody bought it before I had a chance to complete the purchase. Those pics piss me off now. Looks great.

Bummer. It's a great looking watch. Now you guys are making me think about buying one again

[streetracer101]

Ugh. There was a dude selling a LNIB mon-pusher on ebay. I had him down to $1200 but somebody bought it before I had a chance to complete the purchase. Those pics piss me off now. Looks great.

Bummer. It's a great looking watch. Now you guys are making me think about buying one again

I won't buy one without a steep discount. Resale is brutal for Hanhart watches. Maybe Shorty can get us a discount from the WB db's.

[logan2z]

Ugh. There was a dude selling a LNIB mon-pusher on ebay. I had him down to $1200 but somebody bought it before I had a chance to complete the purchase. Those pics piss me off now. Looks great.

Bummer. It's a great looking watch. Now you guys are making me think about buying one again

I won't buy one without a steep discount. Resale is brutal for Hanhart watches. Maybe Shorty can get us a discount from the WB db's.

Group buy?

[logan2z]

Ugh. There was a dude selling a LNIB mon-pusher on ebay. I had him down to $1200 but somebody bought it before I had a chance to complete the purchase. Those pics piss me off now. Looks great.

Bummer. It's a great looking watch. Now you guys are making me think about buying one again

I won't buy one without a steep discount. Resale is brutal for Hanhart watches. Maybe Shorty can get us a discount from the WB db's.

I don't know if Page and Cooper is allowed to ship Hanharts to the US (they definitely are not allowed to ship Sinn) but if they can then you'd save about $300 at today's rates. Still not as low as the eBay deal but a bit better.

https://www.pageandcooper.com/hanhart-p ... ezel-1230/

[CGSshorty]

The 40mm Hanhart is the way to go. The 45mm is enormous and the 42 is uninspired.
My wrist is around 7.25-7.5" depending on time of day and I have no issues with the size of the 40mm.

[streetracer101]

Ugh. There was a dude selling a LNIB mon-pusher on ebay. I had him down to $1200 but somebody bought it before I had a chance to complete the purchase. Those pics piss me off now. Looks great.

Bummer. It's a great looking watch. Now you guys are making me think about buying one again

I won't buy one without a steep discount. Resale is brutal for Hanhart watches. Maybe Shorty can get us a discount from the WB db's.

I don't know if Page and Cooper is allowed to ship Hanharts to the US (they definitely are not allowed to ship Sinn) but if they can then you'd save about $300 at today's rates. Still not as low as the eBay deal but a bit better.

https://www.pageandcooper.com/hanhart-p ... ezel-1230/

They are good peeps, but I'd be inclined to go with Define watches before I tried P+C simply because they fixed WB's botched attempt at being an AD. I'm fairly sure they'll both ship Hanhart to the US, but I still can't take the risk of losing $500-1000 on the flip of one of their watches. The Hanharts only seem to sell for $1200-1400 used.

[streetracer101]

The 40mm Hanhart is the way to go. The 45mm is enormous and the 42 is uninspired.
My wrist is around 7.25-7.5" depending on time of day and I have no issues with the size of the 40mm.

That looks terrific. I am jealous.

[ericf4]

That Junghans is the shit IMO. Nice

Sent from my Moto Z Force

[logan2z]

The 40mm Hanhart is the way to go.

Definitely. Cliché, but it does wear larger because of the long lugs.

[CGSshorty]

I think I did a thread with a lot of photos when I got it.

[logan2z]

I think I did a thread with a lot of photos when I got it.

It's here:

http://www.thedivewatchconnection.com/f ... it=hanhart

[Rackness]

The 40mm Hanhart is where it's at. The bezel on the Junghans bezel is horrible.

[jsj11]

42mm monopusher



40mm dual pusher



I think the dial layout of the 40mm is a lot nicer than the 42mm.

Ugh. There was a dude selling a LNIB mon-pusher on ebay. I had him down to $1200 but somebody bought it before I had a chance to complete the purchase. Those pics piss me off now. Looks great.

I think that may have been me that bought it - was the seller from Taiwan? If so, it was definitely me. Its a beautifully made watch. If I decide to sell it, will let you know!