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Seiko SBDX001 and SBDX017 differences

Post by toxicavenger » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:35 am

There is a guy who did a small comparison of the two on WUS. He said the metal finish on the SBDX017 is a shade dark. And the lume is definitely a little brighter. He actually said the original version has more of a "creamy" looking lume to it. Oh and the lume on the newer version looks more refined in application (not as lumpy).
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Post by Nomadz » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:58 am

nice but pretty much the same :shrug:
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Re: Seiko SBDX001 and SBDX017 differences

Post by namor » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:13 am

Seiko did "improve" their SLN, and the 17 has diashield. Except for the signed crown, they're otherwise pretty much the same.
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Re: Seiko SBDX001 and SBDX017 differences

Post by andrema » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:29 am

That thing is YUUUUGE
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Re: Seiko SBDX001 and SBDX017 differences

Post by hoppyjr » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:41 am

andrema wrote:That thing is YUUUUGE
Isn't it just because the 017 is sitting elevated on its clasp?


FWIW, I'd prefer the creamy, lumpy lume of the 001.

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Post by JP Chestnut » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:47 am

hoppyjr wrote:
andrema wrote:That thing is YUUUUGE
I'd prefer the creamy, lumpy "lume".
Typical size queens.

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Re: Seiko SBDX001 and SBDX017 differences

Post by TSD » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:59 am

toxicavenger wrote:There is a guy who did a small comparison of the two on WUS. He said the metal finish on the SBDX017 is a shade dark. And the lume is definitely a little brighter. He actually said the original version has more of a "creamy" looking lume to it. Oh and the lume on the newer version looks more refined in application (not as lumpy).
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Sorry, off topic, Terry, but did they regulate yours when you had the stoplight seconds hand painted? Or was that just a mod?

I haven't asked our local watchmaker if he can open my 001, yet. Would really like having it closer to +1 than the unadjusted BS it shipped at. The movement is clearly capable of holding great time.

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Re: Seiko SBDX001 and SBDX017 differences

Post by dnslater » Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:01 am

hoppyjr wrote: FWIW, I'd prefer the creamy, lumpy lume of the 001.
I agree, I recall really liking the warm creamy lume color. I believe it was hand applied.

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Re: Seiko SBDX001 and SBDX017 differences

Post by Torrid » Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:32 am

I've heard that Diashield does slightly darken the finish. It seems like maybe that is true after all.

It seems like I've come full circle yet again on the MM300. I'd really love to own one. I feel it would be the perfect companion to sit opposite of the SARX.

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Re: Seiko SBDX001 and SBDX017 differences

Post by toxicavenger » Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:00 am

TSD wrote:
toxicavenger wrote:There is a guy who did a small comparison of the two on WUS. He said the metal finish on the SBDX017 is a shade dark. And the lume is definitely a little brighter. He actually said the original version has more of a "creamy" looking lume to it. Oh and the lume on the newer version looks more refined in application (not as lumpy).
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Sorry, off topic, Terry, but did they regulate yours when you had the stoplight seconds hand painted? Or was that just a mod?

I haven't asked our local watchmaker if he can open my 001, yet. Would really like having it closer to +1 than the unadjusted BS it shipped at. The movement is clearly capable of holding great time.
I had it regulated and the hand painted at the same time. I always mod my watches. :oops:

But now it is at my local watchmaker, due to me beating the hell out of it and it is losing time like crazy. :crybaby:

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Re: Seiko SBDX001 and SBDX017 differences

Post by Torrid » Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:21 am

Man what is with these Seiko regulator issues? I've had some real luck with 6R15s but the timing changes 3-4 times during break in fast, too slow, too fast, and usually settles in well. It's why I'm always afraid to have the regulation touched. I always expect it to have another shift after regulation due to my luck. The one time I did it settled again from +1 to -10 seconds a day.

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Re: Seiko SBDX001 and SBDX017 differences

Post by namor » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:32 pm

FYI - the 300MM is very easy to get access to. Pop the bezel off, then any caseback wrench will take the crystal off as long as you know that you must loosen it clockwise (not counterclockwise). The crown release is then exposed to view, and the movement comes out. Unlike the 6R15 or the 7S26, the 8L35 is a Grand Seiko level movement. Any adjustments made to it must be very tiny!
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Re: Seiko SBDX001 and SBDX017 differences

Post by Selym » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:07 pm

TSD wrote:Sorry, off topic, Terry, but did they regulate yours when you had the stoplight seconds hand painted? Or was that just a mod?

I haven't asked our local watchmaker if he can open my 001, yet. Would really like having it closer to +1 than the unadjusted BS it shipped at. The movement is clearly capable of holding great time.
When I first bought mine, it was gaining ten seconds per day. After demagnetizing it, I wore it for a month straight and it averaged +1 s/d. Try demagnetizing before escalating to something more invasive.

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Post by Selym » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:13 pm

toxicavenger wrote:But now it is at my local watchmaker, due to me beating the hell out of it and it is losing time like crazy. :crybaby:
I have a feeling the moveable stud carrier (the arm that one end of the hairspring is fixed to) on most Seiko movements is heavy enough that it's easily shifted given a good bump. This puts the escapement out of beat and affects the rate. If it moves toward the regulator arm, the rate decreases. If it moves away, the rate increases.

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Re: Seiko SBDX001 and SBDX017 differences

Post by toxicavenger » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:35 pm

Selym wrote:
toxicavenger wrote:But now it is at my local watchmaker, due to me beating the hell out of it and it is losing time like crazy. :crybaby:
I have a feeling the moveable stud carrier (the arm that one end of the hairspring is fixed to) on most Seiko movements is heavy enough that it's easily shifted given a good bump. This puts the escapement out of beat and affects the rate. If it moves toward the regulator arm, the rate decreases. If it moves away, the rate increases.
Yeah what you said....................... :mrgreen: . I wear the hell out of my watches so no surprise it has happen. But my Aegir puts up with a ton abuse with no issues yet. :thumbsup:

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Re: Seiko SBDX001 and SBDX017 differences

Post by Torrid » Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:28 pm

Selym wrote:
TSD wrote:Sorry, off topic, Terry, but did they regulate yours when you had the stoplight seconds hand painted? Or was that just a mod?

I haven't asked our local watchmaker if he can open my 001, yet. Would really like having it closer to +1 than the unadjusted BS it shipped at. The movement is clearly capable of holding great time.
When I first bought mine, it was gaining ten seconds per day. After demagnetizing it, I wore it for a month straight and it averaged +1 s/d. Try demagnetizing before escalating to something more invasive.
Did you buy new? I've had a few overseas shipments get very mildly magnetized. I'm thinking it might have something to do with the customs scanning process. My last one ran +15 seconds and has settled in around +1 every 2-3 days after being demagnetized.

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Post by Selym » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:39 am

Torrid wrote:
Selym wrote:
TSD wrote:Sorry, off topic, Terry, but did they regulate yours when you had the stoplight seconds hand painted? Or was that just a mod?

I haven't asked our local watchmaker if he can open my 001, yet. Would really like having it closer to +1 than the unadjusted BS it shipped at. The movement is clearly capable of holding great time.
When I first bought mine, it was gaining ten seconds per day. After demagnetizing it, I wore it for a month straight and it averaged +1 s/d. Try demagnetizing before escalating to something more invasive.
Did you buy new? I've had a few overseas shipments get very mildly magnetized. I'm thinking it might have something to do with the customs scanning process. My last one ran +15 seconds and has settled in around +1 every 2-3 days after being demagnetized.
I bought it in new-to-new condition from a guy in Toronto (so while it wasn't new, it did go through customs at least twice in its life).

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Post by marchone » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:13 am

Bought this one owner SBDX001 from Tom (TSD) face to face yesterday. It's in perfect condition.

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Post by TSD » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:38 am

marchone wrote:Bought this one owner SBDX001 from Tom (TSD) face to face yesterday. It's in perfect condition.

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Looks great,Wayne! Really good knowing that one's staying. :fro:

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marchone wrote:Bought this one owner SBDX001 from Tom (TSD) face to face yesterday. It's in perfect condition.

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Cool pic bro! :thumbsup:
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Post by toxicavenger » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:39 pm

Top notch Wayne!

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Post by 59yukon01 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:54 pm

marchone wrote:Bought this one owner SBDX001 from Tom (TSD) face to face yesterday. It's in perfect condition.

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A big congrats!

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Post by Chocodove » Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:13 pm

marchone wrote:Bought this one owner SBDX001 from Tom (TSD) face to face yesterday. It's in perfect condition.

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Congrats. I've been eying another one myself.
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Post by marchone » Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:38 pm

It's a great watch but all the fans of it know that. I shied away from it because of its height but it's time to try it. Since I got the bracelet adjusted I think the fit is fine and it's balanced well which I think is the most important part. I'm not fond of it on NATO but canvas or rubber might fill in the ends so it won't look so tall.
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Post by Chocodove » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:26 pm

My favorite combo for the MM300 was ISO.
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