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TZ sales rules

Post by aztecknight » Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:55 pm

Changed. 12 sales a year for private sellers.

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t= ... &rid=29302

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Re: TZ sales rules

Post by JP Chestnut » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:07 pm

Gotta get that cash. I've forgotten two TZ log ins (the first over 12 years old) and haven't even bothered to figure them out. That place sucks in every possible way. It used to be populated with stick in the muds who knew a lot about watches - now it seems that all the knowledge has gone elsewhere. Leaving just a shitty looking empty shell of a forum.

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Post by 4pfrench » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:11 pm

Buddy of mine was a Panerai moderator...when he left, so did I...
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Re: TZ sales rules

Post by demer03 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:15 pm

Nah, not going to do that. All the more reason to get off the merry-go-round
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Re: TZ sales rules

Post by matt.wu » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:23 pm

I'd got to guess that 85% of their traffic is driven there by sales, and 90% of their REPUTABLE sellers fall into the category of > 12 sales a year, most of which would not pay that amount of $$.

Terrible move, IMO, and maybe the start of the actual death of TZ.
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Post by dmckean44 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:34 pm

Why on earth are they bending over backwards for their dealers rather than their members, whom create all the content?

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Post by YOHOHO » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:39 pm

Adds more of a headache to the non bumping posts.

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Post by deepcdvr » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:40 pm

matt.wu wrote:I'd got to guess that 85% of their traffic is driven there by sales, and 90% of their REPUTABLE sellers fall into the category of > 12 sales a year, most of which would not pay that amount of $$.

Terrible move, IMO, and maybe the start of the actual death of TZ.
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12 sales a year? Pffft - that's a good month for me :cheers:
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Re: TZ sales rules

Post by Steve O. » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:30 pm

Have been a TZ member for sixteen years. Used to post watches for sale on the Sales Corner there almost exclusively. Now rarely since I was threatened with banishment for "...displaying a pattern of promoting my watches" in the Vintage Forum, then listing them for sale before the designated thirty day time span expired. Thirty f'ing days? I thought it was one week like most other forums. "Promoting" my watches? Hell, I don't think thirty people even read the Vintage Forum.

Still have a good friend there that I've been buying, selling, and trading with nearly all of those years. He typically lists three watches a day, every day. Guess he'll have to become a Sponsor, or bug out.

An already lame sales forum is going to become even worse. Bad move TZ.
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Re: TZ sales rules

Post by logan2z » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:42 pm

It does seem like a silly policy, although I doubt that the average watch enthusiast lists a watch for sale every month anyway.

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Re: TZ sales rules

Post by hoppyjr » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:45 pm

Who uses Timezone anyway?

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Post by BBK357 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:02 pm

Did I miss the price?
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Post by BBK357 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:03 pm

Did I miss the price?
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Re: TZ sales rules

Post by R_Ongjoco » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:03 pm

$1500 / year as posted here http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t= ... sg_7305591. Pretty steep IMO...
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Post by mechnut » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:04 pm

They killed my last sales post because I didn't have a post count of 100 or more. I haven't been back since.

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Post by CGSshorty » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:07 pm

I haven't logged in to TZ in years. It's as useless as Timelords and 3T.
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Re: TZ sales rules

Post by JP Chestnut » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:11 pm

R_Ongjoco wrote:$1500 / year as posted here http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t= ... sg_7305591. Pretty steep IMO...
That's a lot of money.

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Re: TZ sales rules

Post by logan2z » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:15 pm

JP Chestnut wrote:
R_Ongjoco wrote:$1500 / year as posted here http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t= ... sg_7305591. Pretty steep IMO...
That's a lot of money.
$125/month for a professional watch seller doesn't sound like very much - especially when compared to the alternatives, like eBay and it's fees.

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Re: TZ sales rules

Post by JP Chestnut » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:18 pm

logan2z wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
R_Ongjoco wrote:$1500 / year as posted here http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t= ... sg_7305591. Pretty steep IMO...
That's a lot of money.
$125/month for a professional watch seller doesn't sound like very much - especially when compared to the alternatives like eBay fees.
That's true, but we aren't necessarily talking about pros. Some of the usual flippers do 12/year easily. Ultimately, with watch recon what exactly is TZ offering a seller that every other indexed forum doesn't? Nothing that I can see.

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Re: TZ sales rules

Post by BBK357 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:22 pm

Damn

Getting greedy

Could have done a smaller fee and by risk people leaving.
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Re: TZ sales rules

Post by hoppyjr » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:26 pm

I recently logged in to send a PM about a watch for sale, but can't recall the last time I visited before that. TZ doesn't provide the value it once did.

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Re: TZ sales rules

Post by logan2z » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:27 pm

JP Chestnut wrote:
logan2z wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
R_Ongjoco wrote:$1500 / year as posted here http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t= ... sg_7305591. Pretty steep IMO...
That's a lot of money.
$125/month for a professional watch seller doesn't sound like very much - especially when compared to the alternatives like eBay fees.
That's true, but we aren't necessarily talking about pros. Some of the usual flippers do 12/year easily. Ultimately, with watch recon what exactly is TZ offering a seller that every other indexed forum doesn't? Nothing that I can see.
I'm sure there are a handful of serial flippers who move this many watches, but I don't think it's completely unreasonable to assume that someone selling more than one watch a month is a pro.

And I do agree that someone running a watch business using a site like TZ, WUS, or DWC should help share the costs of running the site, which are not insignificant. Why should someone else pay to keep the lights on while the watch seller gets a free ride?

As for the value proposition, I agree, not sure I see one.

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Re: TZ sales rules

Post by BBK357 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:45 pm

I like WU's model.
At first it was just a worn pair of boxers a month.
Then after the first year it was the boxers plus a personalized wiener pic, you know like writing his name on it or dipping my balls in glitter.
But anyway it works.
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Re: TZ sales rules

Post by dmckean44 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:47 pm

logan2z wrote: I'm sure there are a handful of serial flippers who move this many watches, but I don't think it's completely unreasonable to assume that someone selling more than one watch a month is a pro.

And I do agree that someone running a watch business using a site like TZ, WUS, or DWC should help share the costs of running the site, which are not insignificant. Why should someone else pay to keep the lights on while the watch seller gets a free ride?

As for the value proposition, I agree, not sure I see one.
At any given time, there's easily a couple hundred serial flippers that sell a half dozen watches a month.

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Re: TZ sales rules

Post by logan2z » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:50 pm

dmckean44 wrote:
logan2z wrote: I'm sure there are a handful of serial flippers who move this many watches, but I don't think it's completely unreasonable to assume that someone selling more than one watch a month is a pro.

And I do agree that someone running a watch business using a site like TZ, WUS, or DWC should help share the costs of running the site, which are not insignificant. Why should someone else pay to keep the lights on while the watch seller gets a free ride?

As for the value proposition, I agree, not sure I see one.
At any given time, there's easily a couple hundred serial flippers that sell a half dozen watches a month.
Well then I guess they'll be doing it somewhere else :)

I wouldn't be surprised if WUS follows suit.

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