Non-functional HEV
Non-functional HEV
Has anybody heard of boutique divers using (perhaps unknowingly) non-functional/ fake HEV's? There's some guy over on WUS who says he discovered the HEV on one of his boutique divers was missing a spring, or something. He claims this lead to the WR being compromised.
Any thought? Suspects?
He hasn't said which brand it was, but I have my suspicions.
Any thought? Suspects?
He hasn't said which brand it was, but I have my suspicions.
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I've heard of that, but never heard of them missing springs, just that they are "dummy" ones which is false advertising.
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I recall Shane DeLaurian having a boutique watch and discovering a fake HEV. He didn't want to "out" the brand because he liked they guy or something like that. I think the mods locked it down.
Another reason to only deal with reputable micros (like our fellas here).
Another reason to only deal with reputable micros (like our fellas here).
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This is the one I remember.hoppyjr wrote:I recall Shane DeLaurian having a boutique watch and discovering a fake HEV. He didn't want to "out" the brand because he liked they guy or something like that. I think the mods locked it down.
Another reason to only deal with reputable micros (like our fellas here).
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Yeah was it the Enzo Mecasomething?
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Sounds right.Jeep99dad wrote:Yeah was it the Enzo Mecasonething?
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Guessing Fullswing or other catalogue companies could use them and nobody would ever know otherwise. Has anybody seriously ever saturation dived with a catalogue case micro?
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I find HEV's worthless for the 99.9% of people, even divers. I'd much prefer if most dive watches (think any Omega) eliminated them.
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I prefer to buy watches without HEV.
Fewer parts = fewer chances of issues. Simple is better.
Plus I have no use for it
And HEV often means very high WR which also translates into unecessary case thickness which I don't like most of the time
Fewer parts = fewer chances of issues. Simple is better.
Plus I have no use for it
And HEV often means very high WR which also translates into unecessary case thickness which I don't like most of the time
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Are HEV's useless? Mostly...I've seen blog posts here and there about mixed gas surface diving becoming more "popular." I doubt however that even among rec divers it will ever become a thing.
That said if a dive watch micro or not has an HEV it should work.
That said if a dive watch micro or not has an HEV it should work.
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It only took you 8 Pelagos to figure this out.Jeep99dad wrote:I prefer to buy watches without HEV.
Fewer parts = fewer chances of issues. Simple is better.
Plus I have no use for it
And HEV often means very high WR which also translates into unecessary case thickness which I don't like most of the time
Good job
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I agree, if a watch has a valve it ought to work.
I'd think mixed gas diving wouldn't require the use of an HEV, unless the diver was really deep and spending time in a bell - but I'm no expert.
I'd think mixed gas diving wouldn't require the use of an HEV, unless the diver was really deep and spending time in a bell - but I'm no expert.
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I'd love to know the pressure testing standards for a lot of the micros as well. Some I wouldn't question, like SAS and Aegir, but some of the others...
Not that I'd ever need it, but I see it as false advertising if the testing isn't legit.
Not that I'd ever need it, but I see it as false advertising if the testing isn't legit.
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Panerai7 wrote:It only took you 8 Pelagos to figure this out.Jeep99dad wrote:I prefer to buy watches without HEV.
Fewer parts = fewer chances of issues. Simple is better.
Plus I have no use for it
And HEV often means very high WR which also translates into unecessary case thickness which I don't like most of the time
Good job
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Is that what's on the Pelagos?Panerai7 wrote:It only took you 8 Pelagos to figure this out.Jeep99dad wrote:I prefer to buy watches without HEV.
Fewer parts = fewer chances of issues. Simple is better.
Plus I have no use for it
And HEV often means very high WR which also translates into unecessary case thickness which I don't like most of the time
Good job
Whoa. Useless piece of shit.
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Terpits wrote:Is that what's on the Pelagos?Panerai7 wrote:It only took you 8 Pelagos to figure this out.Jeep99dad wrote:I prefer to buy watches without HEV.
Fewer parts = fewer chances of issues. Simple is better.
Plus I have no use for it
And HEV often means very high WR which also translates into unecessary case thickness which I don't like most of the time
Good job
Whoa. Useless piece of shit.
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I also always wonder about HEV and / or HRV function. Some of them automatically work, and some of them need to be activated by turning the crown, if I am not mistaken. And I don't think many divers really ever dive that deep.
I totally agree, less parts and functions, less possibility of malfunctions.
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I totally agree, less parts and functions, less possibility of malfunctions.
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"When I said ''most watches'' I should have said many micro brand watches. Water infiltrated 2 watches from the same boutique brand. Upon opening and inspecting the HV and gasket had a poor fit, letting water and forming condensation inside the watch. I also found that the HV had no spring to ensure the valve returns to it's initial position, therefore if it would need to release from a he buildup, it would not have returned. As for high end watches testing their HV, just do a google search and you will find the info on the tests performed…Finally rolex and omega, I don't think any explaining is needed, you probably already know their history regarding their HV performance."
If I ever found out my boutique divers with hev's were just for show I'd sell them tomorrow.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f74/how-wh ... 881-3.html
"When I said ''most watches'' I should have said many micro brand watches. Water infiltrated 2 watches from the same boutique brand. Upon opening and inspecting the HV and gasket had a poor fit, letting water and forming condensation inside the watch. I also found that the HV had no spring to ensure the valve returns to it's initial position, therefore if it would need to release from a he buildup, it would not have returned. As for high end watches testing their HV, just do a google search and you will find the info on the tests performed…Finally rolex and omega, I don't think any explaining is needed, you probably already know their history regarding their HV performance."
If I ever found out my boutique divers with hev's were just for show I'd sell them tomorrow.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f74/how-wh ... 881-3.html
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I don't know about you guys, but I find an HEV indispensable.
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Hairy Elizabethan Vagina ????dukerules wrote:I don't know about you guys, but I find an HEV indispensable.
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HAHAHAHAAAAAA!hoppyjr wrote:Hairy Elizabethan Vagina ????dukerules wrote:I don't know about you guys, but I find an HEV indispensable.
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For 99.999% of buyers the HEV is for show whether it works or not.Jcp311 wrote: If I ever found out my boutique divers with hev's were just for show I'd sell them tomorrow.
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They're mostly fine on a Rolex, and totally ugly on an Omega. The manual wart implementation is horrid IMO.hoppyjr wrote:I find HEV's worthless for the 99.9% of people, even divers. I'd much prefer if most dive watches (think any Omega) eliminated them.
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Panerai7 wrote:It only took you 8 Pelagos to figure this out.Jeep99dad wrote:I prefer to buy watches without HEV.
Fewer parts = fewer chances of issues. Simple is better.
Plus I have no use for it
And HEV often means very high WR which also translates into unecessary case thickness which I don't like most of the time
Good job
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Point taken, but the principle remains. Don't lie to me about what I'm buying.foodle wrote:For 99.999% of buyers the HEV is for show whether it works or not.Jcp311 wrote: If I ever found out my boutique divers with hev's were just for show I'd sell them tomorrow.
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