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The Flieger Chrono

Post by aikiman44 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:51 pm

I recently received the IWC 3705, the Flieger Chrono. For background, IWC used a ceramic case for the Da Vinci in the 80's (which sold for more than the gold model). Following that, they re-introduced the ceramic case in the mid 90's. It was an extremely expensive case to produce, and is supposed to be near invulnerable to scratches (you know, Mohs ratings and such). The price was about $6000, as opposed to $4000 for the stainless version (the 3706). I believe a Sub was about $4K at that time.

Observations: At 39mm, it's smaller than most current sport watches produced today, and certainly smaller than I'm used to. The case is a nice leaden gray. With quarter second indices, it's a true chrono. The lack of AR on the crystal means there's a bit of a glare, and makes it a bit difficult to photograph. The crystal has nice, slight dome shape. The crown is nice and large. It's currently on a Di-Modell Jumbo. I'll probably order a custom brown buffalo pilot strap from Aaron Tan, and I have an after market kevlar incoming.
This is the tritium model, which is only version I looked at. If IWC services it, they replace the tritium with Luminova.

This was IWC's first Flieger Chrono, and the predecessor of all those that followed. Here is a bit of history and a comparison with the Miramar (which was reviewed by John Mayer):

http://www.hodinkee.com/history-lesson- ... hronograph

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IWC 3705 Ceramic Fliegerchrono
Manufacturer: International Watch Company
Model: 3705
Name: Mechanical Flieger Chronograph
Caliber: Caliber 7912 (Base caliber Valjoux 7750)
Water Resistance: 60 M
Notes:
Automatic winding, hacking movement
Movement is 30mm, height of 8.9mm, 25 jewels, 28800 vph
39 mm case, height 14.6mm
inner case made of antimagnetic soft iron
Screw-in crown
Convex sapphire glass secured against displacement by drop in air pressure
Approximately 900-1200 of these manufactured in mid-90s
This is the ceramic version of the 3706 stainless steel flieger still in production today
Ceramic case made of zirconium oxide (extremely durable, hardness greater than steel) - said to be “..impervious to cuts, dents and scratches”.
According to the IWC catalog (1993?) this high-tech ceramic allowed for Stealth technology to be possible
Caseback, crown and pushers in stainless steel.
Introduced in 1993, production halted in 1997
Rumoured that production stopped because the expenses of manufacturing the case put IWC's retail margins out of line with cost.
With the sapphire crystal, zirconium oxide case, and the rugged Valjoux 7750 movement.
Valjoux movements used by IWC and their modifications;

Valjoux movement used by IWC and it's modifications;

IWC calibre 7902
base: Valjoux 7750
ca. 1988 - 1996
automatic winding movement with date- and weekday-indication

Gold plated with IWC’s surface-finishing.
Decorated, assembled and regulated at Schaffhausen.
Original Valjoux regulation-system.

Hail Zirconia! THE article on IWC zirconium/ceramic cases:

http://www.iwcforum.com/Articles/2006/ZirconiaText.html


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Post by tattoo chef » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:02 pm

Absolute gorgeous!!


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Post by dshap » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:03 pm

Stunning, just stunning.
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Post by craniotes » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:12 pm

That really is the business right there, Jay.

Amazing.

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Post by craniotes » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:36 pm

Tritium? Check.

Fish crown? Check.

Baton hands? Check.

Ceramic case? Check.

IWC? Check.

Awesome? Hell to the check. :headbang:

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Re: The Flieger Chrono

Post by rockmastermike » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:43 pm

that watch BRINGS THE FURY

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Post by JBZ » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:50 pm

craniotes wrote:Fish crown? Check.
What's the significance of the fish crown? Does it signify water resistance?

Very cool looking piece.
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Re: The Flieger Chrono

Post by aikiman44 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:07 pm

The fish crown was used by IWC for many years to denote water resistance.
If it needs servicing, it's usually replaced by a plain crown.
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Post by craniotes » Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:14 pm

JBZ wrote:
craniotes wrote:Fish crown? Check.
What's the significance of the fish crown? Does it signify water resistance?
Yup, prior to 2005, IWC's that were water-resistant sported these stylized fish crowns; starting in 2006, they started using the "Probus Scafusia" crowns, that are in place to this day. While there's no functional difference, for obvious reasons, aficionados of older IWCs value these crowns, which are swapped out at service.

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PS - In case anyone is interested, the reason for moving away from these crowns centered around their similarity to the Christian fish symbol, signifying Jesus Christ. Some felt that it was too overtly religious for display on a watch that had no spiritual leanings one way or another.
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Post by SCM64 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:18 pm

Great post, appreciate the info, and the watch is indeed smokin' hot. :cheers:
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Post by mattcantwin » Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:19 pm

Another perfect example of why it pays to NOT to listen to my advice. :oops:


Congrats on the IWC, Jay. :thumbsup:
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Post by FlyPenFly » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:01 pm

Very rare baller watch.

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Post by T.R. » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:19 pm

craniotes wrote:
JBZ wrote:
craniotes wrote:Fish crown? Check.
What's the significance of the fish crown? Does it signify water resistance?
Yup, prior to 2005, IWC's that were water-resistant sported these stylized fish crowns; starting in 2006, they started using the "Probus Scafusia" crowns, that are in place to this day. While there's no functional difference, for obvious reasons, aficionados of older IWCs value these crowns, which are swapped out at service.

Regards,
Adam

PS - In case anyone is interested, the reason for moving away from these crowns centered around their similarity to the Christian fish symbol, signifying Jesus Christ. Some felt that it was too overtly religious for display on a watch that had no spiritual leanings one way or another.
Cool info from you, Jay, and Adam. Funny, I always thought the crown meant that IWC was somehow proclaiming some sort of spirituality!

The watch... man.... :headbang: :thatshot: :headbang: :thatshot: OVERBUILT! :ak:
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Post by jeckyll » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:21 pm

Very nice. Versatile too!

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Re: The Flieger Chrono

Post by sfglenrock » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:34 pm

Excellent pickup! Amazing case and just a classic pilot. Absolutely beautiful and my favorite IWC.

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Post by dukerules » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:05 pm

Yeah, that is pretty much the business right there. Jay, you have the coolest collection.

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Post by AtomicTom » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:08 pm

Congratulations Aikiman ! It's amazing how nice this one
is. The case finish seems to change from a cool brushed
to almost gunmetal in the light. ..Also can't say enough
how great the dial is. Perfect size also ! ..Enjoy it. :thumbsup:

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Post by Jeep99dad » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:13 pm

That's so f'in hot!! Ceramic case!!!? Jeez!! Love everything about it.
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Post by homathetes » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:35 pm

+1 :clap:
dukerules wrote:Yeah, that is pretty much the business right there. Jay, you have the coolest collection.

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Post by Brklynlarsons » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:14 am

Sweet
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Re: The Flieger Chrono

Post by jimyritz » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:20 am

Love it Jay, but man at 39MM that's tiny for you..

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Re: The Flieger Chrono

Post by JBZ » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:20 am

craniotes wrote:
JBZ wrote:
craniotes wrote:Fish crown? Check.
What's the significance of the fish crown? Does it signify water resistance?
Yup, prior to 2005, IWC's that were water-resistant sported these stylized fish crowns; starting in 2006, they started using the "Probus Scafusia" crowns, that are in place to this day. While there's no functional difference, for obvious reasons, aficionados of older IWCs value these crowns, which are swapped out at service.

Regards,
Adam

PS - In case anyone is interested, the reason for moving away from these crowns centered around their similarity to the Christian fish symbol, signifying Jesus Christ. Some felt that it was too overtly religious for display on a watch that had no spiritual leanings one way or another.
Interesting stuff, thanks. I think the rumor I'll start is that IWC stopped using the fish crown to distance itself from Doxa (kidding, kidding).
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Re: The Flieger Chrono

Post by bshappy » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:33 am

dukerules wrote:Yeah, that is pretty much the business right there. Jay, you have the coolest collection.
This. I love how a lot of your watches are awesome in their own right but a little but off the beaten path. This one is no different and particularly badass. Congrats Jay!

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Re: The Flieger Chrono

Post by aikiman44 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:23 am

jimyritz wrote:Love it Jay, but man at 39MM that's tiny for you..
Yeah, yeah, always one in the bunch. :bird:

Thanks guys, as usual, I thought long and hard before going for it. And thanks to my staff of 'advisors'. :cheers:
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